4-12 wish list (Merged)

[gaunt1]

Originally Posted by panzer1b

Me210 and ME210 zestroyer flyables with cockpits. Gunners would be lovely but i could live without them.

Any and i mean any late war german bomber so we can actually give a fighter a hard time online.

+1 for 210/410, even without playable gunner position.
Late war german bombers would be nice too. I can understand that flyable Do-217 or Ju-188 isnt possible due to lack of time, but at least we should get a He-111 H16 and a Ju-88 A14.

[panzer1b]

actually the do217 was done by modders and im not sure what ever happened to the ju188 as i know they made a 3d model, but it was never actually released.

the Do127 pit/gunners are not as great as they could be but i personally believe that even if the cockpits are not up to tip top standards they should be added in as just temporary cockpits. I dont know how you guys here feel but id much rather have a crappy cockpit then not be able to fly the plane. I know TD has quality standards but quite a few of the pits down at SAS are actually quite good and i wouldn't mind using them in the default version. Its just kindof bad that we cant really fly so many planes without mods and the server i frequent and have started making maps for just doesn't allow mods.

I know many people are against releasing temporary or not entirely finished cockpits but i really would love to just get something in the game to be able to just plain and simply fly the plane. I realy love the new cockpits with alll the super detailed parts but id still much rather live with temporary pits or not 100% perfection then no plane at all....

thats my 2 cents..

most of the planes people reallyy want are already done on many mod sites, so i fail to see a reason TD cant use them ofc after geting permission, all they'd have to do is code some class files and nothing else.


And i am all for late war ju88 and he111, id like to get the H20 as it was fully armed with 13mm mgs and could actually do some dmg before being torn apart by spits. i dont know tyo much about late war ju88s but im guessing they to were upgunned to the 13mms, as the mg81 is just measly. The mg81 should at the least get a bit more range/dmg. Its impossible to take down any competent fighter let alone a noob, and you really need to be lucky to drop anything...and im pertty sure it wasn't that bad armorpiercing wise.

Ohh and would it be to much to ask for two top guners on the ju88? It would be great to get both especially on the A17 as it doesnt have a bottom gunner so im guessing the crew would be reused for other duties as theres also no bombsighter. We need 2 top gunners on all ju88s as they dont stand a chance as is. Even if some crewes removed one of the gunners its still historcially accurate that many crews used both top gunners as well as the others. i fail to see how it makes sense to remove a gunner, the 88 needs some more firepower... The ju8 was designed to house a 5 man crew and now its more like a 4 man crew which isnt really that good. Not that many planes removed crew members.

[Mysticpuma]

Did I mention my hopes for the p-47 cockpit to get it's make-over...please? !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[CakeJumper]

1. Ground aircraft observers and GCI mechanics in scenarios. E.g., the player could receive a radio message when an enemy aircraft formation is spotted by an observer/radar, which is associated with his mission, and the message would include info about the location, estimated altitude, bearing and speed of the formation. And then the player could initiate such a message in response to Tab-8-whatever to get updated info. It's OK if the messages won't have any VA.
2. Improved bullet/round ballistics, including the effects of non-zero angle of attack of a bullet/round.
3. Engine "overcooling".
4. Improve old aircraft models to the level of more recent ones, as much as you can...
5. Ricochet from the ground/water.
6. Since some static planes can now suddenly become flying ones, I think it is reasonable to consider improving the DM of static aircrafts, at least those of them, which can be used for spawning.
7. Improve AI so it might disengage/retreat from a dogfight or not engage in the first place if the fight is not worth it, even if they didn't get damaged and don't have to RTB. E.g., if the enemy has clear advantage and it's not an AI's objective to hold them. Or, when their mission is to escort and they see their escorted planes being attacked, get out of a fight they are in, if they are in one and if they can get out of it, to protect the escorted planes.
8. Key binding profiles.
9. Filter for AI chatter, so you could select what kinds of messages would be printed on the screen or played as a sound.

[Spudkopf]

Originally Posted by panzer1b

I know many people are against releasing temporary or not entirely finished cockpits but i really would love to just get something in the game to be able to just plain and simply fly the plane. I realy love the new cockpits with alll the super detailed parts but id still much rather live with temporary pits or not 100% perfection then no plane at all....

To be honest I’d have to disagree somewhat, I love flying the Stuka (yes I said the Stuka) but after flying the Tempest, Fw-190, Do-335 etc, I then struggle going back to the Stuka and this not because of the performance, but because of the low resolution cockpit, same runs true for the Bf-109s after flying a Fw-190s it's really hard to go back into a Bf-109 cockpit. The Ju-88 is also great fun to fly and the updates to the external model are excellent, however the cockpit due mainly to its low resolution textures prevents it from being the totally excellent fly it could be, something that is noticeable even after a short spell in a Fw-190 cockpit, which is by no means an overly new cockpit.

Originally Posted by Mysticpuma

Did I mention my hopes for the p-47 cockpit to get it's make-over...please? !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Don’t get me wrong I do very much love any new addition, the Hs-129 for example is an aircraft I’ve always wanted flyable in the game, however if it had been introduced with a Bf-109 / Ju-87 quality cockpit then I may have only flown it once or twice instead of regularly. So my personal priority would be to have all the existing cockpits like that of the P-47, Bf-109, Hurricane, etc, etc updated, or at the very least refreshed with new or higher resolution textures.

[panzer1b]

Originally Posted by Spudkopf

To be honest I’d have to disagree somewhat, I love flying the Stuka (yes I said the Stuka) but after flying the Tempest, Fw-190, Do-335 etc, I then struggle going back to the Stuka and this not because of the performance, but because of the low resolution cockpit, same runs true for the Bf-109s after flying a Fw-190s it's really hard to go back into a Bf-109 cockpit. The Ju-88 is also great fun to fly and the updates to the external model are excellent, however the cockpit due mainly to its low resolution textures prevents it from being the totally excellent fly it could be, something that is noticeable even after a short spell in a Fw-190 cockpit, which is by no means an overly new cockpit.



Don’t get me wrong I do very much love any new addition, the Hs-129 for example is an aircraft I’ve always wanted flyable in the game, however if it had been introduced with a Bf-109 / Ju-87 quality cockpit then I may have only flown it once or twice instead of regularly. So my personal priority would be to have all the existing cockpits like that of the P-47, Bf-109, Hurricane, etc, etc updated, or at the very least refreshed with new or higher resolution textures.

Well then i guess here's something we disagree with. I fly the planes i enjoy to fly and honestly the stuka is one of them. I even fly the il2 alot especially considering its pits are really badly modeled in comparison to for example the hs129 or pe8

i know not everyone agrees but what is the harm in adding planes if it takes little to no effort. I never said anything about you needing to fly them. Im just extremely dissapointed about all the epic ai planes which we cannot personally pilot without mods, which i sortof gave up on considering that all my fav servers block them.

but to each his own, i just fail to see how anyone would say that adding aircraft is a bad idea, who cares if the pits are crappy, at least let those who arent picky with detail pilot them, and let those who are cockpit nuts fly those planes which have high level of detail, noones stopping you from not flying a certain plane you feel is not high enough resolution, but again not adding planes does limit many of those who arent as picky.

As a side note, if you love extreme detail why dont you get Il2 cliffs of dover. That game has a very minimal plane set but each plane has extreme detail and high res textures. The only thing keeping me from getting il2COD is the lack of many plane choices, ohh and the fact it has to use steam when u have no intention of going online. Although i use it for MP only games, steam is byfar horrendous for those who prefer not to have to use 3rd party crap to boot a SP game.....

[Spudkopf]

Originally Posted by panzer1b

As a side note, if you love extreme detail why dont you get Il2 cliffs of dover. That game has a very minimal plane set but each plane has extreme detail and high res textures. The only thing keeping me from getting il2COD is the lack of many plane choices, ohh and the fact it has to use steam when u have no intention of going online. Although i use it for MP only games, steam is byfar horrendous for those who prefer not to have to use 3rd party crap to boot a SP game.....

Well I do have COD, however I have had nothing but trouble getting it to run anything like Il2-46, and when I almost did get going, then Steam shut me out and it took more than a month to get access back (the customer support frankly stinks), then my PC died and I had to rebuild it. Il2-46 and ROF where the first things I put back on and have slowly been re-loading my other sims back on as well, but I’m so p’off by Steam that I’m reluctant to reload COD. And like yourself a love the variety available in Il2-46, but just wish all the cockpits where to the same standard across the sim so I could love them all equally.