could relativity proof have been falsified?

[bongodriver]

I just don't get what appears to be a crusade.

I explained it several times, I think raaaid is an attention seeking troll, out of any of the regular raaaid bashers I tend to be one that at least gives a reasoned argument why I'd like him to politely move on instead of just demanding his banning.

Anyway, point noted and ignore list it is, if he really can keep it on one thread then great.

[fruitbat]

I've just noticed this thread.

I haven't read any of raaaids posts as he is on my ignore list, and has been for months.

Its a simple solution, I just wish the ignore feature would hide threads started by people on your ignore list, and not just posts.

[WTE_Galway]

If you allow totally unscientific mumbo jumbo from creationists and climate change deniers, how can you then justify banning Raaaid? There is very little difference.

[Robert]

Originally Posted by bongodriver

I explained it several times, I think raaaid is an attention seeking troll, out of any of the regular raaaid bashers I tend to be one that at least gives a reasoned argument why I'd like him to politely move on instead of just demanding his banning.

Anyway, point noted and ignore list it is, if he really can keep it on one thread then great.

No. raaaid has medical issues, and he's stated some of them in the past. While those may drive what seems like attention seeking, it is not. I don't know his specifics, but my brother is schizophrenic and I recognize many many many of the same traits of logic and theorizing. That may even be why I feel the need to back raaaid. I do find him a likable guy when not provoked.

EDIT: I know he takes his licks from others here and elsewhere too. Again. Nothing personal, bongo.

[bongodriver]

No. raaaid has medical issues, and he's stated some of them in the past.

I think it's a smokescreen.

While those may drive what seems like attention seeking, it is not

I wish I could believe it.

I don't know his specifics, but my brother is schizophrenic and I recognize many many many of the same traits of logic and theorizing

I had an aunt with the same condition, a well researched and cunning troll could emulate all of that behaviour or as I believe make it a trademark.

That may even be why I feel the need to back raaaid. I do find him a likable guy when not provoked.

The flip side of the coin, either believe him and back him or not believe him and confront him.

EDIT: I know he takes his licks from others here and elsewhere too. Again. Nothing personal, bongo.

No worries, I believe you at least.

[raaaid]

oh so after all you believe im not crazy, well my clinical diagnose its im sane though im having antipsicotics(and i think those frag my head the most, hell everymonth when i get the shot i make the crazier threads)

well what makes me crazy is that in the 12 century i would belive in earth translation while everybody believed the stars were candles in a dome

today its the opposite

i had two nervous breakdowns as heartman

but what do you expect after having watched on tv an ufo attack on a plane in an aerial exhibition or that chicken meat gets his genetic pairs of proteins from millions to just two so the origin of the meat cant be determined

of course im crazy but my resentfull and what i aired as its posible to me is that for some unknown reason i was lead crazy

bongo what you percieve in a way its an excrazy guy

someone who yesterday was scared of certain things and now make him laugh

edit:

also bongo what doesnt fit to you is like when you find a gay guy who is not a butterfly like an ophiolite

im a totally wacky guy who still can fit perfectly in society and is in his perfect right TO THINK WHATEVER HE WANTS

you want me to cut out the crab?

prove me wrong

a good argument:

atmospheric lensing causes raimbow effect or chromatic aberration while gravitational lensing doesnt

link with fact:

http://www.springerlink.com/content/etwum62yqqhx8e6d/

Light refraction by the Sun's atmosphere is calculated.As detected from the Earth, the refraction can deflect a light ray emitted from the Sun's limb by 13" or a starlight ray grazing the solar limb by 26", an effect 15 times larger than the gravitational deflection.

edit:

also bongo you should know in 10 years i never was caught lying, i was caught cheating amerikas army though

am i very smart or telling the truth?

[Sternjaeger II]

Originally Posted by Robert

No. raaaid has medical issues, and he's stated some of them in the past. While those may drive what seems like attention seeking, it is not. I don't know his specifics, but my brother is schizophrenic and I recognize many many many of the same traits of logic and theorizing. That may even be why I feel the need to back raaaid. I do find him a likable guy when not provoked.

EDIT: I know he takes his licks from others here and elsewhere too. Again. Nothing personal, bongo.

Robert, if he really had medical issues (which seem to be there and then they're gone, according to his mood), he shouldn't be here, not because of his condition mind you, but simply cos this is not a healthy place to be. Schizophrenics shouldn't even be allowed near the internet.

If he doesn't, he's just a troll.

I think the truth is in the middle, as he admitted himself to be a "good" troll (if there was something as such). As fruitbat said, the ignore feature seems to work only on posts, not on threads started by members, and god knows if raaaid started more useless topics than anybody else.

The situation is so ludicrous that it's starting to get surreal. He's been banned for trolling lately, and he's relentlessly back at it.

[Robert]

Originally Posted by Sternjaeger II

Robert, if he really had medical issues (which seem to be there and then they're gone, according to his mood), he shouldn't be here, not because of his condition mind you, but simply cos this is not a healthy place to be. Schizophrenics shouldn't even be allowed near the internet.

If he doesn't, he's just a troll.

I think the truth is in the middle, as he admitted himself to be a "good" troll (if there was something as such). As fruitbat said, the ignore feature seems to work only on posts, not on threads started by members, and god knows if raaaid started more useless topics than anybody else.

The situation is so ludicrous that it's starting to get surreal. He's been banned for trolling lately, and he's relentlessly back at it.

Understood, and if he truly is a troll then moderators are the ones to cure the problem. Right? Regarding topics created by members you are ignoring? Topics clearly state who the author is - easy enough to not enter. Capice?

Other than that, I don't think I have anything more substantive to say regarding this, and don't really need to drag this out any more than it already is.

[raaaid]

it says atmospheric lensing its 15 times bigger than gravitational lensing, how could eisntein have accounted for this, i dont say relativity is wrong i say einstein proof its invalid since he had no way to account for sun atmospheric lensin

dont you think my being fourth hit on relativity+ sun+ atmosphere proves i have original ideas which would be a shame censoring for being quite unique?

my discovery:

rounded lenses as planets atmosphere hardly cause any raimbow effect only triangular lenses do

the kind of refraction depends weather the lens is poligonal or rounded

[Outlaw]

Originally Posted by raaaid

it says atmospheric lensing its 15 times bigger than gravitational lensing, how could eisntein have accounted for this, i dont say relativity is wrong i say einstein proof its invalid since he had no way to account for sun atmospheric lensin

If the above is true then why did you say the following...

Originally Posted by raaaid

really im not sure if light is bent by gravity

Regardless, if you don't believe the 1919 methods were accurate SHOW THE DETAILS OF THE EXPERIMENT THAT PROVE IT DID NOT TAKE INTO ACCOUNT REFRACTION.

Originally Posted by raaaid

dont you think my being fourth hit on relativity+ sun+ atmosphere proves i have original ideas which would be a shame censoring for being quite unique?

No, not at all, and even the most clueless person among us would agree with me. All it means that the words in your search string scored a high relevance factor in Google's calculation and that is it.

As far as censoring, no subject you have every posted about has ever been censored. If it were censored, your posts would be removed by the matrix MCP. Yet they are not.

By far, the most ridiculous arguments you have made on this board are the ones where you post a link about something in the same sentence in which you claim that it is censored. If it were censored then the link would fail. Yet, they do not fail. Thus, you are, once again, proven wrong.

The best example of this was your ludicrous "fornix muscle" thread where you posted the link to the, "censored", video about the doctor who invented the machine to strengthen the eye muscles.

THERE WAS A LINK TO THE DOCTOR'S WEBSITE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ON THE DOCTOR'S WEBSITE WAS A LINK TO THE NASA STUDY HE PARTICIPATED IN!!!!!!!

So, here we have....

A youtube video freely available
The doctor's website freely available
NASA (the freaking government!!!!!!!) published a study about his methods

Yeah, lots of censorship there.

As usual you are wrong about everything.

--Outlaw.