Bombers, twin-engined and multi-crewed aircraft: Issues and suggestions.

[Bewolf]

Originally Posted by csThor

Disagree in parts here. First:

Normal Landing on friendly airfield = 100% of the points achieved.
Forced Landing in friendly territory = 75% of the points achieved.
Bail-out over friendly territory = 25% of the points achieved.

KIA, MIA, POW = Zero, nada, niente ... no points. What for? That pilot doesn't need them anymore (and disconnects count towards MIA so that those lazy SOBs who disconnect just to avoid having to fly back and land get a penalty).

As for the point values I am no fan of such large point values for an object. I very much prefer something I had seen with the Squad Select Series on Warbirds a while back.

1.) Fighter / Fighter-bomber = 1 point
2.) Tactical Bomber / Ground-Attack Aircraft = 2 points
3.) Recon / Transport = 2 points
4.) Heavy Bomber = 3 points (not applicable, yet)
5.) Soft-Skinned Vehicles = 0.25 points
6.) Artillery / AT-Guns = 0.25 points
7.) Tanks = 0.5 points
8.) warship = 5 points
9.) cargo ship = 3 points
10.) small ship = 1 point

As for area targets I am not really sure how to value those. Maybe a certain point value for hitting within a certain radius? No idea ...

+2
I'd even go so far to decrease the points for aircraft and/or increase the points for ground targets. Ground targets is what air warfare is all about, fighters are merely there to ensure/prevent that.

[robtek]

Beowulf,

that is really too hard on the typical fighterpilots ego, after all they are the majority on the usual servers, taking themselves much too much important.

[ATAG_MajorBorris]

To bad fighters cant recieve points for successful escort

[csThor]

Originally Posted by Bewolf

+2
I'd even go so far to decrease the points for aircraft and/or increase the points for ground targets. Ground targets is what air warfare is all about, fighters are merely there to ensure/prevent that.

I'm not a fan of that, either, simply because individual ground targets are not a criteria to evaluate the performance of a medium bomber. Theirs were are targets such as railway stations, critical supply roads and all those things which the military calls "lines of communication". IMO anyone who flies a bomber, Stuka or dedicated ground-attack aircraft (but not fighter-bombers) should get a point value per survived mission, maybe 0.1 points so that 10 survived missions equate one aerial victory over a single-engined fighter.

The problem with area targets in general is that they'd need to have a function so that damaging or destroying them would have a direct impact on certain aspects of gameplay. But for that a full-blown supply system would have to be programmed and that is a beast to do right.

[ATAG_MajorBorris]

Type:Bug


Aircraft:Ju88


Description:Low FPS when in cockpit.


Tested:Online


Workarounds:Lower graphics settings helps a little.


Additional Information: When panning the view in cockpit of a Ju88 while the engines are running, severe fps hit when looking at the engine especialy when parked.

[Redroach]

Can we all agree that things like scoring or "destructible airfields" (lol?) are currently at the other end of the universe?
I hope this thread rouses itself back up regarding bomber bugs...

[ATAG_MajorBorris]

Originally Posted by Redroach

Can we all agree that things like scoring or "destructible airfields" (lol?) are currently at the other end of the universe?
I hope this thread rouses itself back up regarding bomber bugs...

Though I am of the opinion that CoD online mission editors have been neglected to some degree and that missions that are exciting and immersive have as much importance to the success of CoD/Bombers as anything, Im sure Blackdog will edit this thread and push the bugs to the top and related banter to the bottom.

Thank you Redroach for your honesty but I must ask, are you doing anything to help the bombers on this side of the universe?

[Redroach]

I wrote/inquired about numerous bugs, bomber and non-bomber, over a year ago. Still pending, though.

[Stealth_Eagle]

I did some more test flights for you Blackdog. The BR. 20 bug is solvable by returning to the pilot and toggling the brake since the AI engages it while it's trying to take off. Some new glitches that I found while flying: the BR 20's instruments go to low resolution if you crash land and survive which is just an annoyance factor rather than a true bug, the Ju 87 when crash landed as well, has double examples of certain things, and finally the Ju 88's gunners have glitched trigger fingers where it won't shoot at once and there is no reload animation for it.
Sorry for not putting it into proper form but I didn't have much time to write this up in order to do such since I have to get things prepared for a service project that I am going off to for a week.

Eagle