Ridley Scott's Prometheus

[Katana1000S]

Maybe?

Its interesting to see how this movie has been finally received.

As a long time Alien/Aliens fan I still love it, but remember too, Ridley is not daft, he wants us to talk and think about this film.

He could have quite easily made it a direct seamless prequel to Alien ... and as far as I know that was his original intention ... sometimes I wish it was, but part's of me likes this tangent too.

Remember too that Bladedrunner was absolutely slated upon its release, by critics and fans of the genre too.

I think we will eventually get a Directors cut or different edit in a Blu ray release? remember too that Alien 3 was an odd movie to start with, but after its Dir cut ... it made a lot more sense.

[Hood]

Originally Posted by Katana1000S

Maybe?

Its interesting to see how this movie has been finally received.

As a long time Alien/Aliens fan I still love it, but remember too, Ridley is not daft, he wants us to talk and think about this film.

He could have quite easily made it a direct seamless prequel to Alien ... and as far as I know that was his original intention ... sometimes I wish it was, but part's of me likes this tangent too.

Remember too that Bladedrunner was absolutely slated upon its release, by critics and fans of the genre too.

I think we will eventually get a Directors cut or different edit in a Blu ray release? remember too that Alien 3 was an odd movie to start with, but after its Dir cut ... it made a lot more sense.

Maybe. We know it wasn't meant to be a direct prequel but there were too many questions that don't really lead anywhere and some aspects that didn't make sense. I hope that any follow up matches our expectations for this film.

To anyone who has yet to see it, go and see it but as a standalone film nothing to do with Alien. It might be more rewarding that way.

Hood

[Katana1000S]

Its all good.

The more I think about it the more I think James Cameron should do an action addition to this prequel to appease the masses ... Scott and Cameron have already sat in a room and discussed this, so you never know!

Seriously, I always thought most fans off the series were more biased to Aliens action than Alien exploring But I like both types.

And finally after all these years I have a new Alien movie and am loving it and that's all that matters.

[Robert]

Originally Posted by Hood

Maybe. We know it wasn't meant to be a direct prequel but there were too many questions that don't really lead anywhere and some aspects that didn't make sense. I hope that any follow up matches our expectations for this film.

To anyone who has yet to see it, go and see it but as a standalone film nothing to do with Alien. It might be more rewarding that way.

Hood

SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS You've been warned.

This prequel is pretty epic in it's attempt (at least in comparison tt the the "knock off one by one" original Alien)... so much so, that it leaves the alien xenomorph as a relatively unimportant character. As a transpermia film with heavy religous connotations and undertones this film succeeds amazingly well. At it's heart it's about the creation of mankind, and apparent destruction of mankind by the Space Jockeys..... except something goes wrong with the SJ's plans and the xenomorphs kill their 'master.'

Was mankind to be destroyed arbitrarily because the creators can, as suggested by David and Shaw's boyfriend Hallywell's creation theory? Was mankind created because the SJ's could or was the creation of man an extention of the SJs ala God creating man out of an extention of love? Had mankind's cup of indignation been filled and were the Space Jockeys to destroy mankind for their deeds or was killing mankind arbitrary because the SJ's can??

An interview with Ridley suggested that mankind had killed a messenger 2000 years ago. They ommitted the reference to Christ in the movie, but if the idea of a 'divine' messenger was thought to be placed in the movie, I can easily continue the belief that this story is a sci fi/ alien version of the book of apocolypse/Revelation gone wrong. Maybe the destruction that was supposed to occur 2000 years ago was a destruction of mercy - thus saving mankind the dark ages, numerous plagues, world wars, and the threat of our own annialation.

We saw two space ships in the movie. One brought life, the other death. Will the original craft make a reappearance? I could even suppose they were sci fi versions of the throne of god. Revelations and Ezekiel detail two different types of throne rooms. Both movable IIRC.

At the end we're left with two survivors. One who is seeking answers to her faith. The other ... well, I'm not sure about David. LOL I don't think Shaw is on a mission of revenge, but instead seeking answers. She'll probably end up going all Ripley on them, but not immediately. I believe that there will be a beacon that the Nostromo answers, and it either comes from Shaw when she finally meets up with the SJs and the xenomorphs or from David. Remember Ash seems to have at least a cursery understanding that there are life forms, and he's to assure they are brought back to Earth. The planet Prometeus lands on isn't the same planet that the Nostromo lands on.

Despite the uneveness of some of the story, and the non-sensical actions of some of the crew I liked it. There are unanswered questions like the cave pictures and the apparent map for example, but I think they will be explained in the next installment.

The ultimate question in the Ridley Scott story is, where did we come from? We may not like the answers.

[jamesdietz]

Pre prequel:
WEYLAND INDUSTRIES Crew Training Session:
http://io9.com/5920723/prometheus-ma...aining-session

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFYmv...Q&feature=plcp

"Its not about answers its about questions..."

[Sternjaeger II]

Hahahaha!

[Robert]

What's wrong with duffle bags holding valuable irreplacable specimens?

[Hood]

Originally Posted by Robert

What's wrong with duffle bags holding valuable irreplacable specimens?

And no security force on board ship, plus idiot scientists rushing in with no protocol, and not knowing what they signed on for, plus proto-facehuggers growing huge on air, and an evolutionary step being taken in one go (the alien at the end), plus why, when the SJ took off as quickly as possible, why did he seek revenge before going to get another ship, and can you run when you've just had your lower stomach muscles cut through etc etc.

The problem for me isn't the plot holes/questions that let it down it's the sheer lack of anything approaching even remotely what a real scientific exploration into the unknown would be like. It's a very well made and stunning looking film but it falls short of what I expected.

And the SJ at the beginning could be seeding life or seeding death - there is nothing to say it pre or post-dates events in the film. We don't even know if it's Earth. I have no idea if this has been covered in interviews etc.

Just my opinion of course.

Hood

[jamesdietz]

What the ship's techy has to say:
http://www.cracked.com/blog/a-series...-new-tech-guy/

Ahh - if only Mort Drucker was still at MAD:

[Katana1000S]

Looks like we will get at least another 20-30 mins of Prometheus with the Blu and DVD release from what I'm hearing.