Man Made Global Warming

[MD_Titus]

Originally Posted by Bewolf

Well, all I will add here...Germany has accepted climate change as a fact and is living up to the challenge.

As a side effect hundret thousands of new jobs have been created and a whole new technolgy field got established. Lots of money to be made here.

So, US, please stick to what you think. We have enough competition from China already in this new field.

well quite. stimulating a stagnant manufacturing sector in times of recession? the horror, the horror.

[Wolf_Rider]

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[SlipBall]

Originally Posted by MD_Titus

well quite. stimulating a stagnant manufacturing sector in times of recession? the horror, the horror.

Will only work out well, if government subsidy's are not required to keep them afloat.

[MD_Titus]

Originally Posted by SlipBall

Will only work out well, if government subsidy's are not required to keep them afloat.

true, but given the current climate (no pun intended) private investment is probably thin on the ground, government subsidy to kick start it is all there is. give it 5-10 years and we'll see if it's a go-er or just another waste of public funds.

[Bewolf]

Originally Posted by MD_Titus

true, but given the current climate (no pun intended) private investment is probably thin on the ground, government subsidy to kick start it is all there is. give it 5-10 years and we'll see if it's a go-er or just another waste of public funds.

It is a new technology. It will take more like 20 years to really establish it. Basically a whole generation. But 80 percent of the population here is willing to pay higher energy bills if it leads to

a) energy independence (no more pesky wars abroad. Anybody calculated those costs into the energy bill?)
b) CO2 reduction
c) lower costs in the long run. And let's face it, gas, oil, uranium are all not going to become any cheaper ever again.

And let's not forget the rule of mass. The more something is produced, the cheaper it becomes. There also still is huge development pontential in all alternative technologies. If you compare it to car or aircraft technology, we are in 1914.

Big part also is making housing more energy efficient. Massive costs now, but given building in Europe tend to stand a couple hundret years, in some cases millenia, it will pay off. But people here are not thinking in today and tomorrow anyways, but 20/50/100 years into the future.

[MD_Titus]

eminently sensible.

it'll never catch on.

[swiss]

Originally Posted by Bewolf

Big part also is making housing more energy efficient. Massive costs now, but given building in Europe tend to stand a couple hundret years, in some cases millenia, it will pay off. But people here are not thinking in today and tomorrow anyways, but 20/50/100 years into the future.

1st
Like "minergie", right.
The isolation material uses soo much so grey energy you 'll never be able to make that up for(based on ~20cm and 100years lifetime).
This is a dead end.

2nd
In a Millennium(-nia is plural, btw)?!
What are you talking about? The storage facilities? Do you really think the Norwegians like the idea of having the better part of their country flooded?
What about he impact on the eco-system?

And let's face it, gas, oil, uranium are all not going to become any cheaper ever again.

Tue.
Thats why we need to make the fusion work. If we cant, we're f'ed - guaranteed.

As a side effect hundret thousands of new jobs have been created and a whole new technolgy field got established. Lots of money to be made here.

Tue again. Only it's Chinese who create and make all that money. You should check the numbers of 2012.
The companies in Germany are struggling and most likely wont make it.