Man Made Global Warming

[jimson8]

Originally Posted by MD_Titus

that's a fundamental misunderstanding of marxism. the theory at least. spot on with how it is implemented though. ideally some are dragged down, but a larger number - as the wealth tends to be distributed as a pyramid rich and few at the top, poor but many at the bottom - are (meant to be) dragged up. funny thing is it tends to be the middle class that espouses marxism, with the richer and poorer tending to have it down as being a liberal panty sniffing taxation fest.

i think i'm remembering this story right, paraphrasing heavily though - when watching a train load up with passengers, marx and a companion went past the first class carriage, and saw the luxury and comfort these few were afforded. they pass second class to see old women perching uncomfortably on wooden benches in the busy carriage. they come to third class and watch as people are loaded into bare cattle carriages. his companion turned to marx and said
"when the revolution comes we'll make those pigs travel third class with the rest of us" (not actual pigs of course)
"no, comrade, you misunderstand - when the revolution comes we'll all travel first class"

Where has it ever worked and why do some still think that it can?

[MD_Titus]

Originally Posted by jimson8

Where has it ever worked and why do some still think that it can?

given the current system and circumstances any alternative ideology can be attractive.

when edison suffered so many failed attempts at making lightbulbs, should he have given up because of them?

[jimson8]

Originally Posted by MD_Titus

given the current system and circumstances any alternative ideology can be attractive.

when edison suffered so many failed attempts at making lightbulbs, should he have given up because of them?

Ok I'll put it another way, when has marxism ever not led to tyranny and mass murder?

Yeah, I think it's worth giving up on.

[Codex]

LOL .... and to think in the mid 70's we were all heading for the big global freeze, the next ice age.

Even if man was contributing to global warming, how long do you think it would take to stop it, or slow it down ... decades, by which time I've heard many scientists say we don't have that long. So I pose the question, if it was really that dire, wouldn't the authorites be stopping ALL industires that produce CO2? Ha ... fat chance.

Man made global warming / freezing ... bah hum bug. It's called progress and no one wants to stop it.

[ATAG_Bliss]

Originally Posted by Codex

LOL .... and to think in the mid 70's we were all heading for the big global freeze, the next ice age.

Even if man was contributing to global warming, how long do you think it would take to stop it, or slow it down ... decades, by which time I've heard many scientists say we don't have that long. So I pose the question, if it was really that dire, wouldn't the authorites be stopping ALL industires that produce CO2? Ha ... fat chance.

Man made global warming / freezing ... bah hum bug. It's called progress and no one wants to stop it.

It's as if you think the top tier gives a flying f*** about the future. They care about the now. Quick profits runs the world, not morals. If they know they can live their 50-100 years without some major world ending catastrophe, they don't care. That's how society works.

I don't see much progress in anything tbh. We are ruining the planet for our own existence. People buy bottled water like it's going out of style because 50% of the natural water supply is contaminated by "progress". The only progress I see is making more ways to kill each other both with governments and large corporations all in the name of making money. (weapons, side effects, poverty, etc.,etc.)

But if anyone honestly thinks we can sustain the amount of fossil fuels we are using for 100's of years to come, reality will indeed knock us back into the stone age again. We are definitely not on a path for any sort of prolonged sustainment. Anyone that thinks the world will be fine forever and ever again at our current pace is very very uninformed. I'm just glad I'll be long gone before the eventual wake up call, but in a way I wish I was around for when we ran out of oil.

It'll be interesting watching the droves of people who can't change a light bulb, wire a house, sweat a pipe, build your own home, grow food etc., (in other words, without any of sort of self sustainment ability) run around like clueless morons when they can't turn on their A/C, go to the grocery store, navigate without GPS etc.,etc.,. I don't wish death on anyone, but I love people that think their iphone, internet, television, is life's necessities. Well enough of that

[Thee_oddball]

Originally Posted by ATAG_Bliss

It's as if you think the top tier gives a flying f*** about the future. They care about the now. Quick profits runs the world, not morals. If they know they can live their 50-100 years without some major world ending catastrophe, they don't care. That's how society works.

I don't see much progress in anything tbh. We are ruining the planet for our own existence. People buy bottled water like it's going out of style because 50% of the natural water supply is contaminated by "progress". The only progress I see is making more ways to kill each other both with governments and large corporations all in the name of making money. (weapons, side effects, poverty, etc.,etc.)

But if anyone honestly thinks we can sustain the amount of fossil fuels we are using for 100's of years to come, reality will indeed knock us back into the stone age again. We are definitely not on a path for any sort of prolonged sustainment. Anyone that thinks the world will be fine forever and ever again at our current pace is very very uninformed. I'm just glad I'll be long gone before the eventual wake up call, but in a way I wish I was around for when we ran out of oil.

It'll be interesting watching the droves of people who can't change a light bulb, wire a house, sweat a pipe, build your own home, grow food etc., (in other words, without any of sort of self sustainment ability) run around like clueless morons when they can't turn on their A/C, go to the grocery store, navigate without GPS etc.,etc.,. I don't wish death on anyone, but I love people that think their iphone, internet, television, is life's necessities. Well enough of that

no need to be around Bliss...just rent the road warrior...that should give you an idea of what it will be like gazaleen aye?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9n29c-q3_8Q

[5./JG27.Farber]

Originally Posted by thee_oddball

no need to be around bliss...just rent the road warrior...that should give you an idea of what it will be like:-p gazaleen aye?

yes yes! Mad max now! Break a deal, face the wheel! Two men enter, one man leave!

[ATAG_Snapper]

Crisis? What crisis?

[Thee_oddball]

Originally Posted by Codex

LOL .... and to think in the mid 70's we were all heading for the big global freeze, the next ice age.

Even if man was contributing to global warming, how long do you think it would take to stop it, or slow it down ... decades, by which time I've heard many scientists say we don't have that long. So I pose the question, if it was really that dire, wouldn't the authorites be stopping ALL industires that produce CO2? Ha ... fat chance.

Man made global warming / freezing ... bah hum bug. It's called progress and no one wants to stop it.

were progressing alright...and we will look like Geidi prime in no time

[CWMV]

Maybe, but man will have had little to do with it.