Fresh stuff from sukhoi.ru (Discussion)

[ElAurens]

I hesitate to wade into this, but I do feel the need to.

Our British friends (and others to be sure, myself included) are bitterly disappointed with CloD, and it is understandable. The Battle of Britain is their touchstone campaign of the entire war, or even of all time really. The RAF is an iconic service to this day because of their actions in the summer of 1940. It is a "sacred" thing and as such the hopes for it's portrayal in the new sim were at an amazingly high level.

Curiously, those of us on this side of the Atlantic had a similar experience with the expectations for the release of Pacific Fighters. The campaign in the Pacific is as "sacred" to us as the BoB is to our British cousins. And we were as let down by it's release as those fretting over CloD are today.

Amazing similarities abound...

Lack of knowledge of the events.

Lack of aircraft types.

Very poor campaigns for off line play.

And in the case of PF, bizarrely chosen maps, and glaring omissions in maps and other areas of content that left gaping holes in gameplay both offline and on.

I won't even get inot the NG issue.

At least CloD has the right map.

So... here we are.

Most of us are not happy to one degree or another.

I suspect that Luthier and the team are not very happy either.

We all have had our pet kicked in the gut by the suits at 1C, who chose to run Oleg off, and release the sim too early, and to add Steam and it's complications at the last minute.

Will beating each other up in the forum fix any of this?

No.

So why keep hammering away at each other like any of us are at fault?

Why?

[Force10]

Originally Posted by ElAurens

Amazing similarities abound...

Lack of knowledge of the events.

Lack of aircraft types.

Very poor campaigns for off line play.

And in the case of PF, bizarrely chosen maps, and glaring omissions in maps and other areas of content that left gaping holes in gameplay both offline and on.

I won't even get inot the NG issue.



Most of us are not happy to one degree or another.



Will beating each other up in the forum fix any of this?

No.

So why keep hammering away at each other like any of us are at fault?

Why?

Everyone understands this except Ace. He has stated in the past that he has got more than his money's worth...so apparently, he's ready to move on. He will continue to bash anyone that would like to play the sim they paid for and get more than an alpha for their money. Ace doesn't understand the value of a finished product, and he is basically the last of the vocal supporters.

[ACE-OF-ACES]

Originally Posted by Force10

He will continue to bash anyone that would like to play the sim they paid for and get more than an alpha for their money.

Pure gold.. The guy who has resorted to calling me names more than once in this thread alone says I am bashing people! Too funny! That or he thinks just because I don't agree with his glass half full view of the world I am bashing him as aposed to disagreeing with him

[Plt Off JRB Meaker]

...........Calm down dear

[kendo65]

Good points there El Aurens. I suppose MG always tended to go for the technical engineering aspects of the flight-sim experience over the immersive gameplay elements even in the original il-2. Because of that I did have my doubts as to the depth of play that would be available with COD before release. I had hope though especially with talk of a dynamic campaign - until about two weeks before release. One difference with original il-2 is that the community filled the gap with countless single missions and immersive offline campaigns. Nothing on that scale as yet for COD.

Philip, I'd advise you to stop trying to convince Aces on any of this. You've expressed your honest opinion here. Anyone reading the forum can take it on board and make their own judgement of it. Don't make the mistake of thinking Aces is interested in any kind of real engagement or honest exchange of views on this. If you answer one of his points he will only substitute it with something else in the next post...and for the majority of open-minded people on the forum his views are irrelevant.