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Old 06-07-2008, 05:13 PM
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gladiator.. yummie
Don't forget: '(Probably Flyable)'
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Old 06-07-2008, 05:47 PM
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Hi to all, as it's my first post here

Frankly, I must say that the Skyraider is a real beauty, I can't wait to be able to fly it over Korea!

The level of details of the aircrafts is also awesome, not very far from the numbers of polygons used for static 3d renderings!

I can already head Mr. Nehalem knocking at my door
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Old 06-07-2008, 06:34 PM
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How is it that the Beaufighter is going to be AI only when we can fly in now in IL2?? Let's not go backward here in the number of flyable planes or remove previously flyable planes. That makes no sense.
Well ...we do have a Beaufighter Mark 21 which arrived in Pacific Fighters...which is a RAAF version with American engines and different armament. A Mark I is going to be a bit different in probably a number of different ways. Just because its AI in the initial release doesn't mean it won't be later either....but I think it'd be more interesting and more fun to have a fully functioning Beaufighter Mark X with full capabilities later on. Read up on the type to find out why that might be interesting. The Mark I wasn't a really big player anyways...its the later version where the type came into its own.
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Old 06-07-2008, 06:43 PM
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I am astonished valuable time is being wasted on the Anson and Bf 108---neither are necessary for a B of B sim (OK, the Anson gives Heinkel 111s something to dominate). A Hudson makes more sense. One would have hoped for a flyable Beaufighter IF so that a radar war would have been possible for the Blitz. Considering the non-importance of the Gladiator to the Battle of France and B of B, its inclusion is another brain-pithing stunner.

As for the Korean War aircraft---WOW!

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Old 06-07-2008, 06:54 PM
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I am astonished valuable time is being wasted on the Anson and Bf 108---neither are necessary for a B of B sim (OK, the Anson gives Heinkel 111s something to dominate). A Hudson makes more sense. One would have hoped for a flyable Beaufighter IF so that a radar war would have been possible for the Blitz. Considering the non-importance of the Gladiator to the Battle of France and B of B, its inclusion is another brain-pithing stunner.


Such theatrics.

"Brain pithing stunner." LOL!!!!!!!!!!

The Med expansion will no doubt follow very quickly after the release of BoB. Can you imagine the howling if "Faith", "Hope", and "Charity", were not included for the defense of Malta?

No one on this, or any board has a clue about the actual scope of Storm of War. Why not save your acerbic commentary till after the release, when it might actually have a basis in fact?

Sometimes I wonder how old you guys actually are.
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Old 06-08-2008, 03:45 AM
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Such theatrics.

"Brain pithing stunner." LOL!!!!!!!!!!

The Med expansion will no doubt follow very quickly after the release of BoB. Can you imagine the howling if "Faith", "Hope", and "Charity", were not included for the defense of Malta?

No one on this, or any board has a clue about the actual scope of Storm of War. Why not save your acerbic commentary till after the release, when it might actually have a basis in fact?

Sometimes I wonder how old you guys actually are.
Unfortunately, not everybody is excited by the prospect of an AI Anson as you are (the Anson was a combat aircraft of, according to its hapless users, negative usefulness---a Hudson would have made more sense, but why have a Coastal Command aircraft at all?---the sim is not about hunting U-boats), and, whether the Glad is used later or not, it seems extremely ridiculous to lumber the project with an airplane which was absolutely irrelevant to the period in question. Had the design been devoted to the Norwegian Campaign, having a Glad would have been a good idea. For all the importance the Glad had to the Battle of Britain, it would have been far wiser to have had an airplane which did play a significant role, like the Hampden, or the Swordfish, which flew long-range mine-laying missions off German ports.

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leitmotiv, with all respect, you, nor anyone else on these boards have the slightest clue about what is going on, about what we are going to get, and wether or not one aircraft model is slowing progress.

Not a freaking clue.

All I've seen here today is a lot of back seat driving by a bunch of geeks hiding behind a computer monitor who think they could do a better job.

Rubbish.

Until the sim is in your hands anything said here is mere speculation, or worse, blatant trolling.

When you start putting in 6 and 7 day weeks working on SOW then I'll give some creedence to your words.

But for now you are just another poster talking drivel.

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I am astonished valuable time is being wasted on the Anson and Bf 108---neither are necessary for a B of B sim (OK, the Anson gives Heinkel 111s something to dominate). A Hudson makes more sense. One would have hoped for a flyable Beaufighter IF so that a radar war would have been possible for the Blitz. Considering the non-importance of the Gladiator to the Battle of France and B of B, its inclusion is another brain-pithing stunner.

As for the Korean War aircraft---WOW!
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I think the Gladiator is at least in part included for balance. There has to be something to dual with the Italian Biplane (I forget the name), not least for online gaming. It will also widen the appeal of the game.
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I am astonished valuable time is being wasted on the Anson and Bf 108---neither are necessary for a B of B sim (OK, the Anson gives Heinkel 111s something to dominate). A Hudson makes more sense. One would have hoped for a flyable Beaufighter IF so that a radar war would have been possible for the Blitz. Considering the non-importance of the Gladiator to the Battle of France and B of B, its inclusion is another brain-pithing stunner.
Logic dictates that the next expansion to the sim will be the Mediteranian theatre of war. The release of a taster plane for that theatre seems in order?
Maybe as in the past it might be a bonus for the online crowd giving them a complete planeset of the Mediterainian theatre /battle for Crete, Greece, Malta etc.
He has supplied the Italian planes so why not include all the planes needed to simulate parts of the early mediteranian conflict. This is a first, someone complaining about too many planes
I suspect the me108 like the tigermoth are intended as either online trainers or as part of a historically acurate training phaze in the Dynamic or scripted campaigns.
Imagine the joy of actually completing a simulation of the genuine Luftwaffe or RAF pilot training program. Even if it is scripted or only as part of the tutorials it would be awesome.
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Thanks for the update, it is much appreciated.

Everything I’m reading sounds fantastic. We’ll be getting two incredibly detailed simulators. One will begin with the Battle of Britain and progress to other Theaters. Then at around the same time, we’ll be headed to Korea and the birth of the jet age. What is there not to like.

I’m as anxious as anyone to get my hands on both of these, but I’m willing to wait until it’s done right.
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