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[robtek]

All this silly talk about a abandoned CloD.

CloD will be patched to work as announced in almost all aspects.

Some stuff announced with CloD will be fixed with the sequel, when merged with CloD the status announced on release will be reached.

So CloD isn't "abandoned" but still directly and indirectly worked on.

With the SDK third parties can and will fill the missing spaces for the BoB, and that is not only the "community", which mostly would really have to struggle to reach the detail level already present, but companies selling high quality content.

[FS~looksharp]

Originally Posted by robtek

All this silly talk about a abandoned CloD.

CloD will be patched to work as announced in almost all aspects.

Some stuff announced with CloD will be fixed with the sequel, when merged with CloD the status announced on release will be reached.

So CloD isn't "abandoned" but still directly and indirectly worked on.

With the SDK third parties can and will fill the missing spaces for the BoB, and that is not only the "community", which mostly would really have to struggle to reach the detail level already present, but companies selling high quality content.

Well said

[philip.ed]

Originally Posted by robtek

All this silly talk about a abandoned CloD.

CloD will be patched to work as announced in almost all aspects.

Some stuff announced with CloD will be fixed with the sequel, when merged with CloD the status announced on release will be reached.

So CloD isn't "abandoned" but still directly and indirectly worked on.

With the SDK third parties can and will fill the missing spaces for the BoB, and that is not only the "community", which mostly would really have to struggle to reach the detail level already present, but companies selling high quality content.

No, you're half wrong. It is only being worked on indirectly: nothing has been said to suggest there will be direct work done to CloD. No campaigns added, no skin-packs included: nada. Nothing. Zero. The indirect effects will hopefully benefit the sim, but this will only be graphical, and won't include terrain features (unless they really overhaul the use of speed-tree).

For a BoB fan like me, this is a pretty dire situation. It's been said a lot, but I waited a long time for this game and it is sad to see it left like this.
If you look at what has been added to the sim by the dev team, there isn't a lot at all. It's like buying a game and you can only complete 1/4 of it. The sequel might be better rounded, and have indirect impacts on the look of the former, but you won't officially be allowed to complete it.

Indeed, what kind of business model is it to let the community finish the job for you? I say roll on the SDK, but the community will be doing a lot of work to CloD which should have been done in the first place. The team have laid the foundations for something epic. They need to understand they have every potential to produce a series, like Il-2, which will be around for decades.

[tintifaxl]

Originally Posted by robtek

CloD will be patched to work as announced in almost all aspects.

Some stuff announced with CloD will be fixed with the sequel, when merged with CloD the status announced on release will be reached.

We will see if and when it happens.

And I will not buy BoM, if they haven't fixed: Radio comms, Brit's planes FM, Ju-88 Gyro, JU-87 dive siren and map bugs.

But that's just me.

[Chivas]

Just more hysteria. If they post a picture of a eastern front game, the knee jerk reaction is they've canceled work on COD. If they mention making an MMO, the knee jerk reaction is they've canceled, the Sequels and are only going to work on the MMO.

The fact is the game engine was designed to do a number of different ventures. There is no way in hell they have stopped work on COD and Sequels for a hopeful pay day two years or more from now with an MMO. The other fact is there will be no MMO, or Sequels unless the the game engine is fixed.

Saying the development of COD has stopped is just plain stupid. Everything the development does to the fix the game engine, FM engine, DM engine, AI, Commands, Water, Clouds, Particle effects, Dynamic Weather system will effect COD.

They will not be building further campaigns for COD, but will fix the game engine and triggers so that it will be easier for third parties and modders to make very effective campaigns.

[catito14]

robtek and philip.ed, do you work for 1C?? It´s amazing the way that you talk, with that security, i want to believe that at least you have somebody known who works into the project who telling you about 1C´s plans ....

[SlipBall]

Originally Posted by Chivas

Just more hysteria. If they post a picture of a eastern front game, the knee jerk reaction is they've canceled work on COD. If they mention making an MMO, the knee jerk reaction is they've canceled, the Sequels and are only going to work on the MMO.

The fact is the game engine was designed to do a number of different ventures. There is no way in hell they have stopped work on COD and Sequels for a hopeful pay day two years or more from now with an MMO. The other fact is there will be no MMO, or Sequels unless the the game engine is fixed.

Saying the development of COD has stopped is just plain stupid. Everything the development does to the fix the game engine, FM engine, DM engine, AI, Commands, Water, Clouds, Particle effects, Dynamic Weather system will effect COD.

They will not be building further campaigns for COD, but will fix the game engine and triggers so that it will be easier for third parties and modders to make very effective campaigns.

Fair enough Chivas...but it is the lack of information that causes the hysteria, they should give some progression feed back weekly. "This week we accomplished............and now our attention is on......" ...this should be in statement form, no questions/answer session

[ACE-OF-ACES]

Originally Posted by SlipBall

but it is the lack of information that causes the hysteria, they should give some progression feed back weekly. "This week we accomplished............and now our attention is on......"

I don't know if that would even do it..

Based on this forum I think it is safe to say no amount of information will do the trick.. Because the one thing this forum has proved to be true about human nature is..

You can please some of the people some of the time..
All of the people some of the time..
Some of the people all of the time..
But you can never please all of the people all of the time!