Man Made Global Warming

[AndyJWest]

Stop trying to Europeanize America.

This isn't an American issue - it is a global one. This isn't a 'leftist' issue, it is a scientific one. You're probably right about the link between terrorism and 'gas' though - the West (and the US in particular) has done much to create the sort of conditions where terrorism thrives through repeated military interventions, support for autocratic regimes, and other acts designed to ensure future oil supplies - not that it has actually succeeded.

[jimson8]

Originally Posted by AndyJWest

This isn't an American issue - it is a global one. This isn't a 'leftist' issue, it is a scientific one. You're probably right about the link between terrorism and 'gas' though - the West (and the US in particular) has done much to create the sort of conditions where terrorism thrives through repeated military interventions, support for autocratic regimes, and other acts designed to ensure future oil supplies - not that it has actually succeeded.

Whatever, if you want America to lead then you need to change your approach because what you are doing now isn't working.

[AndyJWest]

Originally Posted by jimson8

Whatever, if you want America to lead then you need to change your approach because what you are doing now isn't working.

I don't want America to lead. It is too late for that - I'd like them to at least attempt to try to catch up with the rest of the world. And for the umpteenth time, this isn't about America. This is a global issue. The climate doesn't recognise borders. We all share the same atmosphere. If we could build a giant impermiable bubble around the US, and let them choke on their own fumes. It might improve the situation, but for now we'll have to learn to cooperate. (Or swim... )

[ACE-OF-ACES]

All I know is if my SUV got the mileage this 'man made global warming' myth got there would be no problems in the world!

[pencon]

What you want doesn't matter Andy . Your opinions are irrelevant and mean very little.

[MadBlaster]

What you really should be worried about AJW is the possibility of global depression. This is a risk that actually exists and can be quantified. Last week, Bill Gross made some statements. You might want to go to PIMCO website and read his latest. PIMCO going bond vigilante. it's getting serious. Nobody is worrying about false gods right now.

[jimson8]

For the umpteenth time it doesn't matter whether it is a global issue or not, if you consider America to be the biggest problem, then she will have to be on board if you want a solution.

You aren't going to get there by repeatedly calling us stupid rednecks.

You want us to reduce the use of fossil fuels then find another way to motivate, because your approach isn't working, is it?

[pencon]

Leftists are of the opinion that economies don't matter in the grand scope of the average temp fluctuating up or down by half a degree .Even though the entire global economy is about to tank ,let's aggravate it further by taxing the hell out of anyone still stupid enough to work for a living .

[Kodoss]

Just look at the prices you pay for heating your water and houses.

My brother build a 12m² solar heater for heating his water and house on his roof and saves 1/3 of costs every year.
He insulated his house and saves another 1/3 of costs each year.

In the long term he saves money, because he doesn't has to spent it to the gas supplier. And by rising prices it's the best you can do.

And if you use photovoltaic panels to power your air conditioner it's the best you can do.
1. shadow for your roof, if installed above and not in the roof. (helps to cool the house)
2. saves energy costs.

Money is the best motivation to change others viewpoint.
Just look at the oilprices.