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Old 06-03-2012, 02:39 PM
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Still both sides have evidence but no proof.

The issue seems very similar to the "schroeders cat" problem.

Everybody and his uncle "knows" the cat is dead, but it can't be proven until the box is opened.

So, everybody, and his uncle, "knows" there was only 100 oct. used by the active part of the FC, but as in "Schroeders cat" all possibilities are equal true until there is proof (box opened).

I agree with this Robtek. I do not see any definitive proof by both sides. Outstanding claims requires outstanding proof. And both failed to provide.
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Old 06-03-2012, 02:43 PM
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hmmmm, i see lots of evidence from one side, but i quite readily concede not absolute conclusive proof beyond all doubt, and no evidence at all on the other side that has any bearing, from the church of the luftwhiners.

but i await to be dazzled by some evidence from Kurfurst/Crummp, and there disciples of the church of luftwhiners, Ernst Robtek and Doggles, at some point.

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Old 06-03-2012, 02:54 PM
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hmmmm, i see lots of evidence from one side, but i quite readily concede not absolute conclusive proof beyond all doubt, and no evidence at all on the other side that has any bearing, from the church of the luftwhiners.

but i await to be dazzled by some evidence from Kurfurst/Crummp, and there disciples of the church of luftwhiners, Ernst Robtek and Doggles, at some point.
Beginning to call the other side names is not the most subtle avowal of defeat.
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Old 06-03-2012, 03:05 PM
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Beginning to call the other side names is not the most subtle avowal of defeat.
so where's your evidence

by the way, Kurfurst and Crummp have been insulting people for pages now, lol!

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Old 06-03-2012, 03:12 PM
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I agree with this Robtek. I do not see any definitive proof by both sides. Outstanding claims requires outstanding proof. And both failed to provide.

Both may have failed to provide definitive proof but only the advocates of RAF 100 octane use have come up with 'any' evidence, give the debate has now turned to wether the RAF's use of 100 extensive or not the distinct lack of any evidence of 87 octane use works in it's favour.

definitive proof may ultimately prove to be unobtainable, so common sense would dictate the acceptance of exclusive use of 100 octane based on the 'only' evidence provided.
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Old 06-03-2012, 03:14 PM
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Both may have failed to provide definitive proof but only the advocates of RAF 100 octane use have come up with 'any' evidence, give the debate has now turned to wether the RAF's use of 100 extensive or not the distinct lack of any evidence of 87 octane use works in it's favour.

definitive proof may ultimately prove to be unobtainable, so common sense would dictate the acceptance of exclusive use of 100 octane based on the 'only' evidence provided.
What he said.

But all said and done, from the games point of view, as i have said before along with others, this argument is largely irrelevant, as everyone agrees that there should be 100 octane spits and hurris. Frequency is what is being argued about, mission builders can decide that in there own missions, and people can vote with there feet, based on what they believe.

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Old 06-03-2012, 03:48 PM
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My post to Black Six last February 10th re 100 octane shows we're no further along; in fact we were pushed backward in flight modelling since then with the recent alpha patch + Hotfix.

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showpos...1&postcount=84

I am not optimistic about any further FM "improvements", especially in how any specifics are being withheld.
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Old 06-03-2012, 04:05 PM
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I don't think that they will model 100 octane fuel.

I've pretty much given up on this game having any historical relevance to the BoB.

In fact, I've pretty much given up on the game being fixed full stop.
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Old 06-03-2012, 08:21 PM
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I don't think that they will model 100 octane fuel.

I've pretty much given up on this game having any historical relevance to the BoB.

In fact, I've pretty much given up on the game being fixed full stop.
I hope you're wrong, but I understand how you feel.

It's pretty incredible that the RAF fighters are so poorly modelled.
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Old 06-03-2012, 10:17 PM
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to be fair its not even just the RAF fighters.

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