Man Made Global Warming

[Walshy]

Originally Posted by David Hayward

What caused that ice age?

Several causes have been proposed: cyclical lows in solar radiation, heightened volcanic activity, changes in the ocean circulation, an inherent variability in global climate, or decreases in the human population. While not a true ice age, the term was introduced into the scientific literature by François E. Matthes in 1939. It may be conventionally defined as a period extending from the 16th to the 19th centuries, or about 1350 to about 1850.

[5./JG27.Farber]

Cetainly the scale of global tempreture is EPIC and the number of factors involved are colossal.

[Walshy]

Originally Posted by 5./JG27.Farber

Cetainly the scale of global tempreture is EPIC and the number of factors involved are colossal.

Indeed and not one climate change expert has ever taken all those contributing factors into account and factored all them into a definative model ............

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http://Expansion of 1000 Year Temperature Comparison.png

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http://Bond event1500-year climate cycle

The Earth is a dynamic system and there are a lot more factors going on than just our little blip, which quite frankly could be perhaps insigificant, the next 150 years will be crucial ...........

[David Hayward]

Originally Posted by Walshy

Indeed and not one climate change expert has ever taken all those contributing factors into account and factored all them into a definative model ............

That is complete nonsense.

[5./JG27.Farber]

How do you know that David?

[David Hayward]

Originally Posted by 5./JG27.Farber

How do you know that David?

First of all, there is no definitive model.

Second of all, that isn't how science works. They don't just ignore important factors when trying to figure out what is happening.

The statement was complete bullshit on every level.

[5./JG27.Farber]

Originally Posted by David Hayward

First of all, there is no definitive model.

Second of all, that isn't how science works. They don't just ignore important factors when trying to figure out what is happening.

The statement was complete b****** on every level.

No definative model? We were talking about taking into consideration as many factors as possible. They have ignore relevant factors, thats the whole point!

[Walshy]

Originally Posted by David Hayward

That is complete nonsense.

Eh .............. em ................... what?? Once again I'll post this .........

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/08...mate_heresies/

"British-born physicist Freeman Dyson has revealed three "heresies", two of which challenge the current scientific orthodoxy that anthropogenic carbon causes climate change.

"The fuss about global warming is grossly exaggerated," writes Dyson in his new book Many Colored Glass: Reflections on the Place of Life in the Universe, published on Wednesday.





He pours scorn on "the holy brotherhood of climate model experts and the crowd of deluded citizens who believe the numbers predicted by the computer models".

"I have studied the climate models and I know what they can do. The models solve the equations of fluid dynamics, and they do a very good job of describing the fluid motions of the atmosphere and the oceans. They do a very poor job of describing the clouds, the dust, the chemistry, and the biology of fields and farms and forests," writes Dyson.

Biomass holds the key to carbon, he writes - leaving us to infer that he thinks the human contribution is negligible. Overall, Dyson issues a plea for more scientific research into the behaviour of the planet's biomass."

[David Hayward]

Originally Posted by Walshy

Eh .............. em ................... what?? Once again I'll post this .........

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/08...mate_heresies/

You can post it all you want, it does not change the fact that he is a propaganda spewing idiot.

[Walshy]

Originally Posted by David Hayward

You can post it all you want, it does not change the fact that he is a propaganda spewing idiot.

What????? He's a world renowned physicist???? And has more understanding of mathematics and numbers than I could imagine??? A propaganda spewing idiot???? What colour is the sky on your planet mate, as you don't seem to be on mine??