Man Made Global Warming

[5./JG27.Farber]

I kind of agree with you. Less polutants in the atmosphere is great, more exercise and a better life... Great stuff.

The thing is CO2 is not a pollution. Carbon foot print and all that balls is just lies. Were being taxed on lies.

[AndyJWest]

That 'documentary' is full of intentional misrepresentations. It is nothing more than propaganda. The overwhelming scientific consensus is that anthropogenic climate change is real, significant, and likely to have considerable negative consequences.

The 'lies' are being told by those with an interest in making a profit out of the very energy sources that are responsible for the problem. There is no reason why they should be repeated here...

[5./JG27.Farber]

OK AJW,
do you have any evidence to back this up other than you own personel views?

Your the same guy that claimed he was a Marxist if I am not correct? It was also stated in the documentary that these "Scientific facts" of global warming/green house emissions were being paraded as a banner by left wingers so endorse a peasant life style on third world countries. I dislike when science and politics meet because Science is usually curropted to meet the political orientation.

[AndyJWest]

I have no interest in debating the issue with you. The overwhelming scientific consensus is that anthropogenic climate change is real, significant, and likely to have considerable negative consequences. This has nothing whatsoever to do with my politics, or anyone else's. If you want to believe that it is all a Marxist plot, fine, that is your right. You do not however have the right to hijack a forum to push your crackpot conspiracy theories, and then engage in ad-hominem attacks on those who point out the reality of the situation. Take your propaganda elsewhere.

[Walshy]

Originally Posted by AndyJWest

I have no interest in debating the issue with you. The overwhelming scientific consensus is that anthropogenic climate change is real, significant, and likely to have considerable negative consequences. This has nothing whatsoever to do with my politics, or anyone else's. If you want to believe that it is all a Marxist plot, fine, that is your right. You do not however have the right to hijack a forum to push your crackpot conspiracy theories, and then engage in ad-hominem attacks on those who point out the reality of the situation. Take your propaganda elsewhere.

Sorry Andy have to pull you up there on that as there is NO overwhelming consensus, there are people who have stated quite vociferously that the science of global warming climate change is warped to promote the theory ............

Freeman Dyson speaks out against climate change

and

Renowned physicist speaks out about climate modelling

And that's also not taking into account of the huge carbon sinks at the bottom of the world's oceans, the phyto-plankton that lives in the top layer of the world's oceans (which aborbs more carbon the all the world's forests and plants) and the rest of the carbon sinks ................ The past archeological and fossil record HAS shown that the more carbon in the atmosphere that colder it gets, the evidence is there in the studies of ancient Irish bog oak tree rings, ice core samples from the Greenland ice shelf and mud core samples from the world's oceans ............... We are experiencing a bounce back from the "Mini-Ice Age" (which officially ended at the beginning of the indrustrial revolution which it co-incided with). One of the biggest factors that still isn't addressed by climate change scientists is that the Sun, our local star, is probably the most critical contributing factor to our climate, meaning the change in it's solar output over the course of the lifetime of our planet. That is also there in the fossil record as well.

[MadBlaster]

there will be no justice in the world until al gore is locked up and throw away the key. that is all i have to say about this.

[AndyJWest]

Originally Posted by MadBlaster

there will be no justice in the world until al gore is locked up and throw away the key. that is all i have to say about this.

Do you want Margaret Thatcher locked up too? Actually, that seems like a fair deal...

[AndyJWest]

Walshy, look up the word 'overwhelming' in a dictionary.

In any case, Freeman Dyson has made it perfectly clear that he doesn't consider himself in any way an expert in the field of climatology - he is a theoretical physicist and mathematician. And he does not deny that anthropogenic climate change is happening, anyway - he disputes that its effects are likely to be as harmful as predictions suggest: http://e360.yale.edu/content/feature.msp?id=2151

[Walshy]

Originally Posted by AndyJWest

Walshy, look up the word 'overwhelming' in a dictionary.

In any case, Freeman Dyson has made it perfectly clear that he doesn't consider himself in any way an expert in the field of climatology - he is a theoretical physicist and mathematician. And he does not deny that anthropogenic climate change is happening, anyway - he disputes that its effects are likely to be as harmful as predictions suggest: http://e360.yale.edu/content/feature.msp?id=2151

In any case Andy anthropogenic climate change is a small factor to the overall climate change that happens all the time on this planet ........... there are other bigger factors that climate change experts flattly don't factor in, and don't factor in the carbon sinks at all ..................

[louisv]

Originally Posted by AndyJWest

I have no interest in debating the issue with you. The overwhelming scientific consensus is that anthropogenic climate change is real, significant, and likely to have considerable negative consequences. This has nothing whatsoever to do with my politics, or anyone else's. If you want to believe that it is all a Marxist plot, fine, that is your right. You do not however have the right to hijack a forum to push your crackpot conspiracy theories, and then engage in ad-hominem attacks on those who point out the reality of the situation. Take your propaganda elsewhere.

Well said !