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[BlackSix]

Originally Posted by addman

My guess is that the announcement will be made by 1c at the E3 expo which is in June. It's the biggest annual gaming expo in the world, a lot of announcements are being made there. Is this correct B6? Will 1c have a booth at E3 this year?

I don't see 1C in this list
http://e312.mapyourshow.com/5_0/exhi...=alpha&alpha=@

Originally Posted by csThor

I won't try to drag details out of you, BlackSix, but I hope you can get my careful scepticism across to your bosses. With CloD Maddox Games (and therefor 1C) has wasted most if not all of the goodwill of the community and really needs to put flesh to the bones with the successive releases. As such any release needs to be both technically mature and interesting gameplay-wise (and I am not talking about Spitgirl-solutions here!) - especially so if a MMO service is being planned. Paying a monthly fee for mere gangbanging (which is so pre-dominant online) or a pay-to-win kind of system á la World of Tanks is not going to be the big hit 1C must be hoping for. Whatever is planned - it must be a sound concept in all the relevant areas.

Gameplay will be the deciding factor here and - pardon the frank speech - Maddox Games has totally failed in that area, since Il-2 version 1.0 was released.

I hope what my bosses have thought about it very much)

[Volksieg]

An MMO???

Looks like this game is going in the bin then. lol I'll look back on it fondly just as I do on my Warhammer Online account, my EVE account...etc....etc.... Just as I look back on, and get all dewy eyed when I think about, that time I had any faith in this company.

Thanks for the update though, Blacksix, even if the info you are given to share with us is beginning to leave a seriously bad taste in my mouth. Not your fault, mate.

[ATAG_Bliss]

Originally Posted by Volksieg

An MMO???

Looks like this game is going in the bin then. lol I'll look back on it fondly just as I do on my Warhammer Online account, my EVE account...etc....etc.... Just as I look back on, and get all dewy eyed when I think about, that time I had any faith in this company.

Thanks for the update though, Blacksix, even if the info you are given to share with us is beginning to leave a seriously bad taste in my mouth. Not your fault, mate.

I hope this is some sort of sick joke. If this proposed MMO is the basis for the upcoming sequels to IL2COD etc., then that's all she wrote. There's no way I'm playing a flight sim MMO where the company controls the servers, missions, players etc etc etc. This is the worst possible thing that could ever happen (if this is tied to the same series we have right now).

I hope B6 can chime in and say this is a completely different standalone game that has nothing to do with the SOW/BOB/CLOD series other than sharing the broken game engine.

Looks like all the hardcore WWII guys will be stuck with 1946. That business model sold 1,000,000's of copies. Heck, just refresh the graphics in 46 and everyone would buy it all again. Leave it in open GL or w/e. But MMO = no way from me.

[JG52Krupi]

Originally Posted by ATAG_Bliss

I hope this is some sort of sick joke. If this proposed MMO is the basis for the upcoming sequels to IL2COD etc., then that's all she wrote. There's no way I'm playing a flight sim MMO where the company controls the servers, missions, players etc etc etc. This is the worst possible thing that could ever happen (if this is tied to the same series we have right now).

I hope B6 can chime in and say this is a completely different standalone game that has nothing to do with the SOW/BOB/CLOD series other than sharing the broken game engine.

Looks like all the hardcore WWII guys will be stuck with 1946. That business model sold 1,000,000's of copies. Heck, just refresh the graphics in 46 and everyone would buy it all again. Leave it in open GL or w/e. But MMO = no way from me.

Have to agree, no thanks...

Terrible idea, unless they intend on making it a complete ww2 game like ww2online.

[SlipBall]

Originally Posted by ATAG_Bliss

I hope this is some sort of sick joke. If this proposed MMO is the basis for the upcoming sequels to IL2COD etc., then that's all she wrote. There's no way I'm playing a flight sim MMO where the company controls the servers, missions, players etc etc etc. This is the worst possible thing that could ever happen (if this is tied to the same series we have right now).

I hope B6 can chime in and say this is a completely different standalone game that has nothing to do with the SOW/BOB/CLOD series other than sharing the broken game engine.

Looks like all the hardcore WWII guys will be stuck with 1946. That business model sold 1,000,000's of copies. Heck, just refresh the graphics in 46 and everyone would buy it all again. Leave it in open GL or w/e. But MMO = no way from me.

Would be nice for the best of two worlds. I too am hoping for two separate stand alone's as the optimum. I was hoping Clod would visit other theaters after BOM...not much to add till the details emerge I guess.

[Ataros]

Originally Posted by csThor

I won't try to drag details out of you, BlackSix, but I hope you can get my careful scepticism across to your bosses. With CloD Maddox Games (and therefor 1C) has wasted most if not all of the goodwill of the community and really needs to put flesh to the bones with the successive releases. As such any release needs to be both technically mature and interesting gameplay-wise (and I am not talking about Spitgirl-solutions here!) - especially so if a MMO service is being planned. Paying a monthly fee for mere gangbanging (which is so pre-dominant online) or a pay-to-win kind of system á la World of Tanks is not going to be the big hit 1C must be hoping for. Whatever is planned - it must be a sound concept in all the relevant areas.

Gameplay will be the deciding factor here and - pardon the frank speech - Maddox Games has totally failed in that area, since Il-2 version 1.0 was released.

This is my concern too. Competitors' beta tests show that it is almost impossible to create balanced and interesting missions which offer something more thoughtful than capture-the-flag like scenarios.

WWII Online system where users plan and schedule missions themselves could be a partial solution though.

Originally Posted by BlackSix

It's problem for me, because I'm learning English but I didn't finish this process at present.
Central ideas from this articles:
1) we are developing MMO game based on CloD engine
2) announcement will be soon, June 2012 is deadline
3) it will be hardcore game (as old Il-2 and CloD) for the true simmers
4) alpha version will be ready in 2013

This will at least solve the problem with idiotic AI, right? And it is good to hear, it will be in stores in 2013!

[159th_Jester]

I'll certainly be interested to hear how 1C intend to acomplish this MMO (even though I have zero interest in buying it.... Simply because I personally don't wish to pay subscription fees).

The thing is, both from a point of view of difficulty and hardware requirements, the CloD engine is simply not suited to a classic MMO scenario.

By definition an MMO needs a massive online community to be financially successful. The steep learning curve involved in mastering even basic flight in CloD will immediately alienate all but those currently involved in the niche flight sim market, and the need for high spec PC's to get the best performance will alienate even more people. As far as ground vehicles go, well load up CloD and change your GFX settings to medium or low and then ask yourself honestly if driving around on that landscape or manning a stationary AA gun with those graphics is an experience you'd pay a monthly fee for.

Hopefully the patch they're currently working on will be a success and by increasing frame rates overall allow lower spec PC's to bump up the GFX settings a little. If so, it would make the possibilities of an MMO based on this engine succeeding that much better.

Whatever they do, I hope 1C are unltimatelysuccessful, but at the moment I'm skeptical, and will remain so until I see some more information from the devs.

[Feathered_IV]

Originally Posted by Opitz

Originally Posted by BlackSix:
It's problem for me, because I'm learning English but I didn't finish this process at present.
Central ideas from this articles:
1) we are developing MMO game based on CloD engine
2) announcement will be soon, June 2012 is deadline
3) it will be hardcore game (as old Il-2 and CloD) for the true simmers
4) alpha version will be ready in 2013


This will at least solve the problem with idiotic AI, right? And it is good to hear, it will be in stores in 2013!

No no, they said the alpha in 2013... Oh wait, I see what you did there.

[Continu0]

Originally Posted by Feathered_IV

No no, they said the alpha in 2013... Oh wait, I see what you did there.

rofl.... Thank you, I dind´t get it at first...