Friday, May 25, 2012. Report 3

[ACE-OF-ACES]

Originally Posted by GOA_Potenz

Your problem is that you blindly support this mess

Not true at all.. I just have a more realistic understanding (read non child like view) and therefore a more realistic expectation than you.

As I pointed out, you and your 'types' expect perfection out of the box..

Yet you would be hard pressed to find any game software that has no bugs

Originally Posted by GOA_Potenz

(i got a ban for saying that)and that hurts more than nothing the development of a sim

Rest assured you did NOT get banned for saying 'that'..

But I am surprised that you have not been banned for calling the devs liars

Originally Posted by GOA_Potenz

i did several mods for il-2 hardcore java file editing, i know how is to work with code,

So have I..

I have updated several versions of SJack's zINFOMOD to work with HSFX..

And from those data files I wrote the C# code to make a web-based version of IL-2Compare that you can see here

www.flightsimtesting.com

And not only that..

I actully get paid for writing software at work..

So I know a thing or two about software development, and bugs, and how things can come up that cause delays

Originally Posted by GOA_Potenz

and when we release something and had bugs we didn't say the same thing for six + months, we accepted and go honestly to the users, and even make it work with tousands of franken installs.

And there is where you show your software ignorance.. In that it is much easier to 'tweak' and existing Java file than it is to write a game from scratch..

And when I say from scratch I mean taking a chance and looking to the future and writing a game from scratch that makes use of the cutting edge gaming aspects.. Like taking on the DX11 API instead of playing it safe and writing a DX9 game.

Originally Posted by GOA_Potenz

RoF took 6+ months to be working correctly as i bought since day one,

I bought it day one also, and it took them longer than that to fix everything.. And even longer to put in some of the features they have now.. A perfect example being the ability to see planes at a distance, something that made the game unplayable for me (my standards) the way planes use to suddenly appear and disappear at a certain distance.

Originally Posted by GOA_Potenz

it was a mess when it was owned by neoqb with the russian way of comunication same as 1C. since 777 studios came into play things change for good and RoF improved communications and development, seems in russia have another sense of costumer support.

Well maybe RoF communications with their customers is better because they don't have guys like you posting in their forums and calling them liars each time they post and update..

Just a thought!

Originally Posted by GOA_Potenz

but in the end people like you are the most that hurt this game always compliments and no complains a development team doesn't need roses all the time and more if paid for something that claim to be a finished product, when even the devs said at the first videos where we could see something wrong that it was due to lack of ram in the PC's running the game.

Again.. Your showing your ignorance..

I have had plenty of negative things to say about CoD..

What separates me from you is I don't have a hissy fit when something gets delayed such that I feel the need to call them liars..

I guess that is just something you eventually learn living and working in the real adult world..

You mileage may and clearly does vary

[Force10]

Originally Posted by ACE-OF-ACES

As I pointed out, you and your 'types' expect FUNCTIONING out of the box..

There...I fixed that for ya

[addman]

Originally Posted by Force10

There...I fixed that for ya

HEY! I was gonna do that!

[Insuber]

Later we attacked Wellingtons, three Bf-110 against 5 heavies; it was like watching a movie, with the smoke trails of cannon shells twirling around, and smoke and flames bursting from wounded bombers. Again, wonderful show. The game ran fluid without an issue.

This sim is already a jewel, and in future it can be a milestone of the genre. Stop bashing it, please.

[5./JG27.Farber]

Originally Posted by Insuber

This sim is already a jewel, and in future it can be a milestone of the genre. Stop bashing it, please.

+1, Im a massive fan of the game and can see the potential but othertimes I just can't take it anymore and it makes my heart bleed and I blow up!

[GOA_Potenz]

Originally Posted by ACE-OF-ACES

Not true at all.. I just have a more realistic understanding (read non child like view) and therefore a more realistic expectation than you.

As I pointed out, you and your 'types' expect perfection out of the box..

Yet you would be hard pressed to find any game software that has no bugs


Rest assured you did NOT get banned for saying 'that'..

But I am surprised that you have not been banned for calling the devs liars


So have I..

I have updated several versions of SJack's zINFOMOD to work with HSFX..

And from those data files I wrote the C# code to make a web-based version of IL-2Compare that you can see here

www.flightsimtesting.com

And not only that..

I actully get paid for writing software at work..

So I know a thing or two about software development, and bugs, and how things can come up that cause delays


And there is where you show your software ignorance.. In that it is much easier to 'tweak' and existing Java file than it is to write a game from scratch..

And when I say from scratch I mean taking a chance and looking to the future and writing a game from scratch that makes use of the cutting edge gaming aspects.. Like taking on the DX11 API instead of playing it safe and writing a DX9 game.


I bought it day one also, and it took them longer than that to fix everything.. And even longer to put in some of the features they have now.. A perfect example being the ability to see planes at a distance, something that made the game unplayable for me (my standards) the way planes use to suddenly appear and disappear at a certain distance.


Well maybe RoF communications with their customers is better because they don't have guys like you posting in their forums and calling them liars each time they post and update..

Just a thought!


Again.. Your showing your ignorance..

I have had plenty of negative things to say about CoD..

What separates me from you is I don't have a hissy fit when something gets delayed such that I feel the need to call them liars..

I guess that is just something you eventually learn living and working in the real adult world..

You mileage may and clearly does vary

Yes, ya are boring as hell, for all ya state above i will answer with this:
Claiming how cleaver ya are, just show how ignorant ya are...

[ACE-OF-ACES]

Originally Posted by GOA_Potenz

Claiming how cleaver ya are, just show how ignorant ya are...

Really?

Not sure what you mean by claiming to be cleaver?

Are you talking about the part where I pointed out that I too have made IL-2 mods?

If so note I was just replying to your comment, i.e.

Originally Posted by GOA_Potenz

i did several mods for il-2 hardcore java file editing, i know how is to work with code, and when we release something and had bugs we didn't say the same thing for six + months, we accepted and go honestly to the users, and even make it work with tousands of franken installs.

Is that statement by you a good example of someone trying to be cleaver?

As in was that what you were referring to?

If so, than note I was just following your lead

[bzc3lk]

Originally Posted by ACE-OF-ACES

Well maybe RoF communications with their customers is better because they don't have guys like you posting in their forums and calling them liars each time they post and update..

Just a thought!

The reason they don't have guys " like you " is because they deliver on what they say and if they drop the ball with a patch, it is rectified fast. They are not groping around in the dark hoping to find a solution to their problems.

Just a thought!

[ACE-OF-ACES]

Originally Posted by bzc3lk

The reason they don't have guys " like you " is because they deliver on what they say and if they drop the ball with a patch, it is rectified fast. They are not groping around in the dark hoping to find a solution to their problems.

Just a thought!

Yes RoF delivered

But the point I made..

And the point you missed!

Is it took RoF a year to deliver!

Hope that helps! S!

[furbs]

Didn't ROF have about 2-3 years of development plus a year after release to get what we would call full functionality?
They now patch and add content almost every month and are still planning more content for at least another year.

COD on the other hand had over 5 years in development, 15 months post release and we are still in alpha state, no more content planned and a patch on average every 4 months.

Its 7 months since the last official patch and counting...