Throwing some light on rates of turn

[CaptainDoggles]

Originally Posted by ATAG_Snapper

Have you actually tested that, Doggles?

Yes. Spit 1's climbed up into my E4 seemingly effortlessly at 7000 metres not too long ago.

[ATAG_Snapper]

Originally Posted by CaptainDoggles

Yes. Spit 1's climbed up into my E4 seemingly effortlessly at 7000 metres not too long ago.

Well, there's rock solid, indisputable proof beyond all doubt.

[fruitbat]

Originally Posted by ATAG_Snapper

Well, there's rock solid, indisputable proof beyond all doubt.

[CaptainDoggles]

Originally Posted by ATAG_Snapper

Well, there's rock solid, indisputable proof beyond all doubt.

*shrug* If you want to stick your fingers in your ears and go LA LA LA then that's up to you.

I went up to 7k, closed rads most of the way, leveled out, and hit full throttle. Three Spit 1s who were below and far behind me eventually caught up.

I think that's pretty definitive. Incidentally, it agrees with this graph that Banks prepared from the graphs posted by 1C staff:



I note with much amusement that Snapper, you posted in this very thread less than 10 posts after this post was made, yet you act like you haven't seen it.

But again, if you want to pretend that the 109 is superior in every aspect to all the RAF fighters then go ahead.

[Robo.]

Originally Posted by CaptainDoggles

But again, if you want to pretend that the 109 is superior in every aspect to all the RAF fighters then go ahead.

Yes high up it was alright for the RAF pre-patch and I assume it's the same now. I suggest you try flying the RAF for couple of weeks to see what they're trying to tell you.

[ATAG_Snapper]

Originally Posted by CaptainDoggles

*shrug* If you want to stick your fingers in your ears and go LA LA LA then that's up to you.

Hey, you've got no argument from me. Thanks to you, I've seen the light!

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hnTmBjk-M0c

[pstyle]

Originally Posted by CaptainDoggles

I went up to 7k, closed rads most of the way, leveled out, and hit full throttle. Three Spit 1s who were below and far behind me eventually caught up.
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make a vid?

[CaptainDoggles]

Originally Posted by pstyle

make a vid?

Perhaps I will in the future but I'm too busy the next month or so... plus I'm not sure my rig can handle FRAPS and still run the game at playable levels.

[camber]

Originally Posted by CaptainDoggles

Perhaps I will in the future but I'm too busy the next month or so... plus I'm not sure my rig can handle FRAPS and still run the game at playable levels.

Damnit Crumpp said much the same thing It's like doing the dishes

I don't think it's impossible that (as you say) that Spits and 109s are speed competitive at high alt. Whose to say that the in-flight gauges are actually giving correct information? We could have a Spit 1a and 109 at 20000ft with gauge data showing the 109 20% faster, but both the aircraft actually doing 100mph TAS (or 500mph TAS!) through the CloD air.

At this point it just gets confusing. For any aircraft, mismatched discussions can occur based on any combination of:

* Performance calculated from gauges
* Developer stated target performance
* Actual relative performance in game
* Wishful thinking relative performance in game (hopefully not too much of this )
* Optimistic historical performance
* Pessimistic historical performance
* Fantasy historical performance (hopefully not too much of this )

For me I think it is time to give up for now and just have fun with what it is and whatever it becomes.

camber

[WTE_Galway]

Originally Posted by camber

* Fantasy historical performance (hopefully not too much of this )

camber

Don't worry there will be plenty of that once the Mustang makes an appearance (and to a lesser extent the fw190).