Throwing some light on rates of turn

[ATAG_Snapper]

Originally Posted by 6S.Manu

I'm only stating that it's not really a priority in the sim IMO.. of course it HAS to be modelled for historical accuracy, but if the number of downed Spits is always upper than the number of lost 109s it's not because RAF misses the 12lbs boost... it's because the wrong tactics.

Well, I think it's fair to say many Red pilots would disagree about the wrong tactics getting them shot down. But if you are right, then Red pilots will still get shot down even with their 100 octane/12 lbs boost because of these "wrong tactics". However, the strong opposition to the 12 lb boost would indicate many Blue pilots don't think this at all.

Are Blue pilots afraid of Spitfires getting their precious 12 lbs boost because, on a limited basis, the 109's and Spitfires will now be fighting on a more level playing field? Or is it apples-to-oranges, cannon shells-to-rifle bullets? (oops, poor choice of words, eh? )

[6S.Manu]

Originally Posted by ATAG_Snapper

Well, I think it's fair to say many Red pilots would disagree about the wrong tactics getting them shot down. But if you are right, then Red pilots will still get shot down even with their 100 octane/12 lbs boost because of these "wrong tactics". However, the strong opposition to the 12 lb boost would indicate many Blue pilots don't think this at all.

Are Blue pilots afraid of Spitfires getting their precious 12 lbs boost because, on a limited basis, the 109's and Spitfires will now be fighting on a more level playing field? Or is it apples-to-oranges, cannon shells-to-rifle bullets? (oops, poor choice of words, eh? )

You already know how I'm thinking about it... I'm just watching the total of votes on the bugtracker: I don't think many guys here are against the 100 octane fuel introduction.

Think about the Spitfires outnumbering the P51s on the old IL2 public servers... Most people don't care about their safety (being in a faster plane), they care about TnBing... no tactic, no patience... they act like dogs in heat, point the nearest target. Above all the Spit are historically easy to fly... it's not surprising if many newbies fly them. And to be honest you have to know that I did not let my cadets to fly 109F4 or G2 too...

Give them more speed.. nothing will change until they learn how the real pilots were fighting (ambush and BnZing as priority).

If you ask me I'll always take the P51 over anything... or the Spitfire over the P47 if I have to fly under 10km. If I can't choose then I will think about a tactic (probably it will result on me diving away as during the hunting of heavy bombers... I can't fight against P51 and P47 at 10km... then I'll dive away after the headon with the bombers)

BtW the strong opposition is coming from only 2 guys because of historical accuracy...

[ATAG_Snapper]

OK, I misunderstood your statement on why you thought adding the 12 lb boost should be a low priority. Virtually ALL of the "veteran" CoD Spitfire and Hurricane pilots who already employ solid ACM tactics strongly feel that 12 lbs of boost be a high priority. It makes no sense to make the 12 lbs of boost a low priority simply because newbie pilots would possibly misuse it!