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Old 05-15-2012, 10:01 PM
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Hardly unexpected that the 1937 manual didn't have 100 fuel
Right, so it appears you can throw out all those combat reports that do not specify +12lbs or 100 Octane.

Like this one:

http://www.wwiiaircraftperformance.o...on-1july40.pdf
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Old 05-16-2012, 10:22 AM
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Right, so it appears you can throw out all those combat reports that do not specify +12lbs or 100 Octane.

Like this one:

http://www.wwiiaircraftperformance.o...on-1july40.pdf
For all you know 145 sqd is one of your 16 squadrons you claim were using the 100 octane. After all, action in that area is right in the front line and by your standards most likely to have the fuel.

Unles of course you can prove that they were not using the fuel which reminds me, to do that you need to prove which 16 squadrons or stations were using the fuel.

Any update?

I admit to not holding my breath
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Old 05-16-2012, 11:13 AM
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For all you know 145 sqd is one of your 16 squadrons you claim were using the 100 octane. After all, action in that area is right in the front line and by your standards most likely to have the fuel.

Unles of course you can prove that they were not using the fuel which reminds me, to do that you need to prove which 16 squadrons or stations were using the fuel.

Any update?

I admit to not holding my breath
At the time 145 was based at Tangmere. Also based there were 43, 601 and the FIU. The FIU flew Blenheims so 100 fuel must have been available. It should also be noted that Tangmere was one of those stations listed in the Dec 7 1939 document http://www.wwiiaircraftperformance.o...0oct-issue.jpg

It shouldn't be that hard to identify those 16 squadrons should it Glider? So why the evasiveness in identifying these 16 squadrons by a certain party?
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Old 05-16-2012, 11:06 AM
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Right, so it appears you can throw out all those combat reports that do not specify +12lbs or 100 Octane.

Like this one:

http://www.wwiiaircraftperformance.o...on-1july40.pdf
Wrong: this is simply your arbitrary "ruling" made on the basis of one document. Fact is Dowding used the phrase "pull the plug" in his 1 August memo, recognising that this phrase (and others such as "squeezed the tit") was pilot jargon for "used emergency boost" or +12 lbs boost - you have already tried to rule out all such pilot's reports based on some other such arbitrary concept, so if you don't like them being used, too bad.

Unless, that is, you can find a memo or other such document stating, for example, that, until further notice, 87 Octane fuel will be used by the majority of the RAF's frontline fighters.

Either that or find a list of units authorised to use 100 octane fuel, and/or an explanation of the logistical processes used by the RAF to ensure a limited supply of 100 octane directed at selected units or stations.
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