Fulqrum Publishing Home   |   Register   |   Today Posts   |   Members   |   UserCP   |   Calendar   |   Search   |   FAQ

Go Back   Official Fulqrum Publishing forum > Fulqrum Publishing > IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover

IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 05-15-2012, 08:07 PM
JG5_emil's Avatar
JG5_emil JG5_emil is offline
Approved Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 331
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Force10 View Post
Bliss has stated in the past that he absolutely HATES CO-OP. In the event that a proper CO-OP GUI was in place, ATAG probably wouldn't host any CO-OP servers, and more than likely lose some players to CO-OP. Not too good for a server that relies on donations I suppose. IMO
He did state that in the other thread.

I still think that more functionality especially the simple kind will draw more people in and ATAG would even benefit rather than suffer.

More players can only be a good thing.
__________________

Intel Core i5-2500K @ 4.20GHz
Asrock Z68 Extreme4 Z68
Kingston HyperX Genesis Grey 2x4GB DDR3 PC3-1280
Intel 510 ElmCrest SSD 120GB
GeForce GTX 580 3072MB
Windows 7 Ultimate 64-Bit
Corsair HX1050 PSU
Corsair Hydro H80 CPU Cooler
Silverstone Fortress 2
Hazro HZ27WA 27" 2560x1440
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 05-15-2012, 08:08 PM
ATAG_Doc ATAG_Doc is offline
Approved Member
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: A brothel in the Mekong Delta
Posts: 1,546
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Force10 View Post
Bliss has stated in the past that he absolutely HATES CO-OP. In the event that a proper CO-OP GUI was in place, ATAG probably wouldn't host any CO-OP servers, and more than likely lose some players to CO-OP. Not too good for a server that relies on donations I suppose. IMO
You should find a better outlet for your anger and resentment other than making a career out of being a troll.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 05-15-2012, 07:48 PM
ATAG_Bliss ATAG_Bliss is offline
Approved Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 1,156
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by JG5_emil View Post
A dog fight server is not a COOP in the way that nearly everyone else but you seems to understand.

I've said it before but I'll say it again. The COOP is to simulate a meeting engagement often (but not always) one that is historical.So this is something that HAS happened in real life.
Oh so the engagement itself is historical or can be made to be historical but everything else about it is not? I think I understand now. Sounds like fun.
__________________

ATAG Forums + Stats
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 05-15-2012, 07:55 PM
JG5_emil's Avatar
JG5_emil JG5_emil is offline
Approved Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 331
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ATAG_Bliss View Post
Oh so the engagement itself is historical or can be made to be historical but everything else about it is not? I think I understand now. Sounds like fun.
Nice troll
__________________

Intel Core i5-2500K @ 4.20GHz
Asrock Z68 Extreme4 Z68
Kingston HyperX Genesis Grey 2x4GB DDR3 PC3-1280
Intel 510 ElmCrest SSD 120GB
GeForce GTX 580 3072MB
Windows 7 Ultimate 64-Bit
Corsair HX1050 PSU
Corsair Hydro H80 CPU Cooler
Silverstone Fortress 2
Hazro HZ27WA 27" 2560x1440
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 05-15-2012, 07:58 PM
ATAG_Bliss ATAG_Bliss is offline
Approved Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 1,156
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by JG5_emil View Post
Nice troll
Really? You just made an accusation saying that I was against a better COOP interface. I even asked you to quote me where I was saying that. You're the troll here. Grow up or better yet post some factual information next time.
__________________

ATAG Forums + Stats
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 05-15-2012, 07:59 PM
furbs's Avatar
furbs furbs is offline
Approved Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 2,039
Default

Bliss, could i have a email addy as i dont have anywhere to host the file.

BTW you want to take back where you said i was full of it and couldn't open the FMB or place a object?
__________________
Furbs, Tree and Falstaff...The COD killers...
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 05-15-2012, 08:02 PM
ATAG_Bliss ATAG_Bliss is offline
Approved Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 1,156
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by furbs View Post
Bliss, could i have a email addy as i dont have anywhere to host the file.

BTW you want to take back where you said i was full of it and couldn't open the FMB or place a object?
For the 3rd time. Attach the mission to the forum. If you need help with the attach button then I'm sorry.
__________________

ATAG Forums + Stats
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 05-15-2012, 08:07 PM
Seeker Seeker is offline
Approved Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 213
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ATAG_Bliss View Post
So the in the real war pilots all fired up their machines at the same exact second and met in the middle? haha

And IL2COD has COOPs. It has servers that rotate missions as well. It has objective based missions.

You know what is true about every single mode of play? It has to be made.

As DF server, you think there's some sort of GUI within this dos box that says "objective 1 click here to make" or "rotate mission by clicking this button"? No, of course not. All of that stuff that makes DF servers to their thing and COOP servers do their thing has to be programmed in the mission.

Why aren't people like me raising an uproar asking for a GUI to run a DF server? Oh wait, that's because we just figured out how to do it on our own. Guess what? COOPs use the same strategy.
Ad1: Yes, people really do and did wait for orders before going over the top and have been shot for not doing so. As you put it: Haha them.
Ad2: drivel. You may be trying to make a point, but I haven't found it yet.
Ad3: Yes, it has to be made. The point being, in CLOD it's made badly.
Ad4: I've never used a DOS box to start a mission; but then I live in the 21'st century, not the 20.th. However, I take and gratefully accept your delineated point that dog fight and coop servers are two different entities.
Ad5: I imagine you're not making a fuss because you have the motivation and skills to manipulate the software in a way that suits you; and you're happy in your relative isolation. Good for you! I can only add that such an attitude is what's made 'Nix such a force in the desktop market today. Tell me, do you do most of your "stuff" via the CLI and can't imagine why any one would use anything less efficient?

No, forget the last, I'm not that interested in your opinion anyway.

I'm sure that you could make a coop. I'm sure that lots would love it if you did. I'm sure that merely cloning a VM and starting up another session won't be a big issue, so why not put your limited funds up against your limitless physical communications interface and run a coop as you see fit?

Then we could judge your undoubted technical prowess against the average 15 year old with a bit of imagination and passion.

They may not have understood the finer points of C## (or is it D flat?) programming, but they sure seemed to pack 'em in on an average hyper lobby evening.

Just make sure to really make it really real. I find it calming to count the rivets on the cowling of the plane next to me while I watch the disembodied seating arrangements of bomber formations floating over head, followed by their close escort skimming the grass through the forest. Before the CTD. In glorious mono.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 04:50 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2026, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © 2007 Fulqrum Publishing. All rights reserved.