hahahahahaha Man united

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Originally Posted by Trumper

So Man utd don't buy their success then? .I could list the players that they have poached /bought from other clubs just like you can for all.
Man Utd and the other big clubs are only that because

1 They have alot of mugs -sorry fans throughout the world buying merchandise

2 Rich owners who pump money into the club

3 Success encourages the big fish (with inflated wages) to false loyalties.

In my opinion the best managers are those that work with a fraction of the expense and survive and do well,punching above the belt--David Moyes ,Paul Lambert for example.
Personally i would love to see a rule come in that says the managers are moved around every 5 years to see whether the likes of Fergie could manage a poor team to success.

i fully concur that managers like moyes and lambert and rogers have done fantastically, but conversely you sometimes see these managers who do well on a shoestring budget get a job with a richer (not bigger) club... and they do woefully. since sky came in it's a self-perpetuating hegemony at the top level, and the only way to break into it is a rich owner, such as jack walker at blackburn, abramovich at chelsea and mansour at city. sticking is the trick, money doesn't get you success, it can only assist - the players, the manager and the team ethic are what wins things.

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Listening to utd fans claiming and whining about city having bought the title is hypocrisy of an epic scale.

It was fine when they were the richest club and were doing it, cry me a river

I'm still laughing.....

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Originally Posted by fruitbat

Listening to utd fans claiming and whining about city having bought the title is hypocrisy of an epic scale.
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I agree wholeheartedly.
Just like Sir Alex Ferguson, they never could take losing with honor. Nah, everything BUT the team will be found guilty of their failure - starting from someone having better transfering ideas, poor referees (Fergie does his part here), unjuries and faaaar worse matchday fixtures.

Anybody ever heard of Ashley Young?

Should have won the derby when they had a chance.

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Originally Posted by carguy_

I agree wholeheartedly.
Just like Sir Alex Ferguson, they never could take losing with honor. Nah, everything BUT the team will be found guilty of their failure - starting from someone having better transfering ideas, poor referees (Fergie does his part here), unjuries and faaaar worse matchday fixtures.

Anybody ever heard of Ashley Young?

Should have won the derby when they had a chance.

they didn't have a single on-target shot in the last derby. not a single one.

fergie tried to complain about the extra time we scored in, but considering barton's escapade took the about 4 minutes, that means only one additional minute for 6 substitutions, the goals and fouls. certainly not "fergie-time" levels.