I sooo like this new producer/consumer relationship!!

[MadTommy]

Whilst its nice to have a post every now and then by a community manager... the feedback and communication by the Develops is still by far the worst i have seen on a sim.

Why the developers don't actually contribute to their own forums at all is certainly baffling. Every other simulator forum i frequent will see developers answering questions and giving input.

The lack of developer input is a significant reason for much frustration and ill feeling in this community.. i don't see the present situation as something to be celebrated.. but instead a tidy baby step towards what should have been going on for the last year.

[GF_Mastiff]

But as usual, a pessimist comes on here to chime in!

I'm loving the new CLOD hot fix has made it much better IMOP.

Come on you Pessimist get on the band wagon and buy a new I7 CPU and get more ram this is the future.

you old cranky system is just that old and cranky, can't handle the new engines.

[MadTommy]

Originally Posted by GF_Mastiff

But as usual, a pessimist comes on here to chime in!

I'm loving the new CLOD hot fix has made it much better IMOP.

Come on you Pessimist get on the band wagon and buy a new I7 CPU and get more ram this is the future.

you old cranky system is just that old and cranky, can't handle the new engines.

Well thanks for your valuable contribution. Your ignorance is only surpassed by your ill founded assumptions. (FYI i've never had fps issues, except MP stutters that all have suffered from.)

I'm entitled to my opinion, drop the fanboy / whiner crap, its very boring.

Originally Posted by Ataros

Publisher is paid for communication. In case of 777 the publisher is 777 (with DCS it is the same IIRC). In case of 1C publisher outside Russia is UBI. You can try to contact UBI for updates and support on their forums. They keep the communications budget.

In DCS both the publishers TFC & developers ED, contribute, depending on the subject. This is a Ic forum.. but Ic contribute nothing but host these boards. I just think the present situation could be a hell of a lot better.

[furbs]

It could and should be better, people forget were almost at the stage we should have been at release, not 15 months after. Were still not quite there yet though.

While we should all be happy development looks like continuing along the series, BOB is still a long way off being the full BOB simulation it was advertized and hyped to be(we all know the reasons)
I hope the patches keep coming though and before long we will be out of "alpha" soon with luck.

[Ataros]

Originally Posted by MadTommy

Whilst its nice to have a post every now and then by a community manager... the feedback and communication by the Develops is still by far the worst i have seen on a sim.

Why the developers don't actually contribute to their own forums at all is certainly baffling. Every other simulator forum i frequent will see developers answering questions and giving input.

The lack of developer input is a significant reason for much frustration and ill feeling in this community.. i don't see the present situation as something to be celebrated.. but instead a tidy baby step towards what should have been going on for the last year.

Publisher is paid for communication. In case of 777 the publisher is 777 (with DCS it is the same IIRC). In case of 1C publisher outside Russia is UBI. You can try to contact UBI for updates and support on their forums. They keep the communications budget.

[scotchegg]

Originally Posted by MadTommy

Whilst its nice to have a post every now and then by a community manager... the feedback and communication by the Develops is still by far the worst i have seen on a sim.

You seem to be ignorant of the communication on other major sims. Ever heard of Microsoft communicating any dev information at all? Want to take a look at the comments on Flight's FB page? They've even disabled comments on their website now.

[Icebear]

Originally Posted by scotchegg

You seem to be ignorant of the communication on other major sims. Ever heard of Microsoft communicating any dev information at all? Want to take a look at the comments on Flight's FB page? They've even disabled comments on their website now.

Even though I also appreciate this "new producer/consumer relationship"; your comparison is flawed, not to mention b*llshit!

Microsoft never released a disastrous software like CloD. They never let their clients wait for month for another experimental alpha version with limitations and full of bugs. Maybe Microsoft disabled comments on their website, but I know a company that simply deletes threads and ban the authors.

With all respect, a new producer/consumer relationship is the minumum we can expect. Let's hope and pray that this was not just a single "warm saturday in May mood"

[scotchegg]

Originally Posted by Icebear

Even though I also appreciate this "new producer/consumer relationship"; your comparison is flawed, not to mention b*llshit!

Microsoft never released a disastrous software like CloD. They never let their clients wait for month for another experimental alpha version with limitations and full of bugs. Maybe Microsoft disabled comments on their website, but I know a company that simply deletes threads and ban the authors.

With all respect, a new producer/consumer relationship is the minumum we can expect. Let's hope and pray that this was not just a single "warm saturday in May mood"

Don't see how the comparison is flawed. They're both flight sims with devs on one side and frustrated customers waiting for months for improvements on the other. Where's the flaw?

Maybe some threads have been deleted here for going against forum rules, but there is communication, however unsatisfactory to you, between the devs and the users. There is absolutely none for Flight and as far as I know none for FSX either.

[robtek]

Flightsimulator X was for me in a even worse shape than CoD when i tried it the first time!!!
I couldn't even get a normal view then.

[FS~looksharp]

what about microsoft combat flight simulator 3..... that was total pants

my self and other pals waited ages for that sim to come out after enjoying combat flight simulator 2, when it did come out....... well the rest is history

long live the IL2 series