Why still no dive acceleration difference?

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mach 1, sound barrier and 'loud noise'. what is 'thunder'??? get it now??? What other WW2 prop planes had mach 1 dive limit??? I can't recall any other that did. Even the great Ta 152 falls short. So, if Republic makes the only plane that can get to sound barrier with out breaking up, calling it 'thunderbolt', seems a good fit to me. So, I simply was speculating on the origination of name.

It's totally useless for having 0.85 Mach dive limit when your enemy could outdive you with better acceleration within 0.7 Mach and pull to level run away.

It's totally useless for having 0.75 Mach dive limit when your enemy could outdive you with better acceleration within 0.65 Mach and pull to level run away.

It's totally useless for having 0.65 Mach dive limit when your enemy could outdive you with better acceleration within 0.55 Mach and pull to level run away.

Now, do you understand me?

Huh? We already know that the fw190a-4 was quicker off the line in the dive! Go back and read your own posts and theory as to why. I already stated your conclusion seemed reasonable. I don't know why you seem to be contradicting your own conclusion now? Most of the other prop planes couldn't touch that dive limit, so p47 acceleration is moot beyond their dive limits. But it did not have the best acceleration in the dive as per the test record.

It seems that you misundertand me. P47 can outdive fw190 WITHIN fw190's dive limit.

(C)

(1) 10000 fett to 3000 feet, starting at 250 m.p.h., diving at angle of 65 degree with constant throttle setting. The FW-190 pulled away rapidly at the beginning but the P-47 passed it at 3000 ft with a much greater speed and had a decidedly better angle of pull out.

In your opinion, fw190 from 3000m @400km/h dive to deck will lost its wings?
No, no, no.
When hit ground, the speed of fw190 is BELOW its diving limit. But fw190 was outdived by P47, wasn't it?

I'll use estimated numbers to show you, if you don't aunderstand, I 'll give up.

acceleration=g*cos(65)-dragcoefficent*(TAS)^2/weight+Propellerthrust/weight


1)from 400km/h to 570km/h,Fw190G outdives P47D
acceleration=g*cos(65)-dragcoefficent*(TAS)^2/weight+Propellerthrust/weight

For fw190G:acceleration=4.1-1.5+3.5=6.1 m/s^2

For P47D:acceleration=4.1-1+2=5.1 m/s^2


6.1>5.1, So fw190G outdives P47D.



2)from 570km/h to 750km/h, P47D doutdives fw190G

For fw190G:acceleration==4.1-5+1=0.1m/s^2

For P47D:acceleration=4.1-3.3+1=1.8 m/s^2


1.8>0.1,So P47D outdives fw190G.