Damage Model issue?

[CaptainDoggles]

It's a bug. The fuel tank "explodes" but doesn't damage the aircraft.

[Biggs]

Originally Posted by CaptainDoggles

It's a bug. The fuel tank "explodes" but doesn't damage the aircraft.

well at least its been noted...

its funny now, but i was absolutely crushed and shocked after the first time it happened.. I was so thrilled at my apparent 'skilled' deflection shot, only to be completely dumbfounded to see the 109 wheeling back around to get on my six after I banked away

[CaptainDoggles]

Originally Posted by Biggs

well at least its been noted...

its funny now, but i was absolutely crushed and shocked after the first time it happened.. I was so thrilled at my apparent 'skilled' deflection shot, only to be completely dumbfounded to see the 109 wheeling back around to get on my six after I banked away

The first time it happened to me I saw "Fuel tank: exploded" come up on the HUD and fire everywhere, so I bailed out ASAP.

From external view I could see my 109 keep flying away, relatively unscathed.

A previous poster was correct though, when he said that the 109 will run out of fuel in very short order. Over England, I'd bet against him getting back to France, even with a full tank.

I think either the fireball is wrongly depicted because tank did not explode but just was damaged. Or the damage model is not right. If it explodes it should make a big hole or even ripp of large chunks of the plane.

BTW: Are there by chance planes that do not explode at all?

[notafinger!]

Originally Posted by 41Sqn_Stormcrow

I think either the fireball is wrongly depicted because tank did not explode but just was damaged. Or the damage model is not right. If it explodes it should make a big hole or even ripp of large chunks of the plane.

BTW: Are there by chance planes that do not explode at all?

If the 109 tank is indeed exploding as the animation would suggest it should result in death or severe burns since the pilot is sitting on the tank. Maybe the seat armor redirects some of the blast outwards but the pilot would surely feel the need to exit immediately.

It is laughable how often the wing tanks on any of the blue bombers explode and rip the wing off at the engine. That has to be the most common method of bomber destruction when I fly red. However, it is few and far between that an engine catches fire, seems it should be the other way around.

[CaptainDoggles]

The flight and damage models are just borked in a general sense.

I was saying in another thread that it's trivially easy to de-wing a Blenheim. No cannon required.

[robtek]

Well, it seems that the damage from a exploding fuel tank is only missing in the single engined planes.
It is also easy to dewing a 110.

[trademe900]

The damage models are porked in this game particularly in the sense Notafinger mentioned.

Wings coming off every time when a fuel tank ignites? This is the most common method of bomber destruction and it's quite silly. A bombers wing does would not come off like that and I've never read a combat report citing disintegration of any of the 3 bomber aircraft. This needs to be fixed... but I'm guessing nothing will happen until we have to cash out more hard earned $ on BOM.

[gimpy117]

Originally Posted by CaptainDoggles

It's a bug. The fuel tank "explodes" but doesn't damage the aircraft.

i think that in itself is a bug. fuel tank explosions are EXTREMELY rare. Because certain conditions must exist for explosive combustion inside a tank. Generally With a tank full, It will not happen. Sure, It will Burn like heck but it won't go boom, because fuel in itself does not explode, but the VAPOR does. Hence why if there is little to no vapor it will not burn. Gasoline, for example in it's purely liquid state does not burn, however the Fumes evaporating do, and burn very well they do. But burning does not equal an explosion. Even when an incendiary bullet or heat source enters the tank, there is a very small and fleeting window (trust me NASA didn't even know for sure when they researched if for the TWA flight 800 explosion) where the tank has the proper vapor pressure, volume, heat and fuel to air mixture to detonate.

As far as I can tell for their reports this combination of events must happen:
-Tank must be nearly empty
-Tank must be heated
-Tank must have proper Fuel/Air Ratio
-Tank must have the proper pressure
-Tank must be exposed to a properly powerful ignition source

All these add up to a pretty specific and rare event.

gimpy: I agree!

Exploding aircraft may not have been something impossible but it surely was a rare event.

As gimpy explained the window for explosion has to be met and this window is considerably smaller than the window for explosion.

Please don't believe Hollywood.