Is this the New Winston Churchill?

[Bewolf]

Originally Posted by swiss

It wont be one huge battlefield but dozens of smaller ones.

Well, then we have been in constant world war since man learend how to use a stick.

[swiss]

Originally Posted by Bewolf

Well, then we have been in constant world war since man learend how to use a stick.

Constantly at war yes, "world war" - maybe not.
Anyway - what is your outlook for next four decades to come?
Peace and unity?

[Bewolf]

Originally Posted by swiss

Constantly at war yes, "world war" - maybe not.
Anyway - what is your outlook for next four decades to come?
Peace and unity?

I lost faith in my predictions a long time ago. Things can change so quickly and unpredictably that it makes not much sense in looking to the future or develop any kind of fatalism.

Actually, I can't stand predictions, because more often then not they become self fullfilling prophecies. People start to believe something will happen, and that alone often has the effect to actually make it happen.

What is worrysome in this regard is that in many places of the western world there developed a Lust for Armageddon, tear everything down and start anew. Just look at the TV series and movies coming out lately, there is more in there about world destruction then for the last 50 yerars combined. If that is any indication for peoples current mood, then I do not wonder a bit about the current state of the western world.

Ppl atm are not driven by facts or attempts to fix the problems we have, but mere emotion. That hardly ever solved anything. Though I do develop an understanding why, for example, ppl cheered all over Europe when WWI broke out. It appears at certain points in history men simply loses his ability to think things through out of pure frustration.

[swiss]

Originally Posted by Bewolf

People start to believe something will happen, and that alone often has the effect to actually make it happen.

What is worrysome in this regard is that in many places of the western world there developed a Lust for Armageddon, tear everything down and start anew.

What's so bad about this vision?

[Bewolf]

Originally Posted by swiss

What's so bad about this vision?

It's bad because everybody has his/her own idea about starting anew. There is no thinking behind it, just a certain urge. It is like invading Afghanistan or Iraq without a Plan to rebuild it. Plain romanatics.

Greece is expiriencing something of that sort currently, and people do not appear to be too happy about it. And if I remember right, the ppl living in the aftermath of WW2 were not too happy, either.

[Sternjaeger II]

Originally Posted by Bewolf

It's bad because everybody has his/her own idea about starting anew. There is no thinking behind it, just a certain urge. It is like invading Afghanistan or Iraq without a Plan to rebuild it. Plain romanatics.

Greece is expiriencing something of that sort currently, and people do not appear to be too happy about it. And if I remember right, the ppl living in the aftermath of WW2 were not too happy, either.

Pardon my ignorance man,what exactly is romanatics?

[Bewolf]

Originally Posted by Sternjaeger II

Pardon my ignorance man,what exactly is romanatics?

this

[chantaje]

"Without being radical or overly bold, I will tell you that the Third World War has already started--a silent war, not for that reason any the less sinister. This war is tearing down Brazil, Latin America and practically all the Third World. Instead of soldiers dying there are children, instead of millions of wounded there are millions of unemployed; instead of destruction of bridges there is the tearing down of factories, schools, hospitals and entire economies .... It is a war by the United States against the Latin American continent and the Third World. It is a war over the foreign debt, one which has as its main weapon interest, a weapon more deadly than the atom bomb, more shattering than a laser beam."
-- Brazilian President Luiz Ignácio Lula da Silva (Lula), comment from 1989 when he was a labor leader and leading dissident in Brazil

[swiss]

Originally Posted by Bewolf

It's bad because everybody has his/her own idea about starting anew. There is no thinking behind it, just a certain urge. It is like invading Afghanistan or Iraq without a Plan to rebuild it. Plain romanatics.

Problem is - you cant plan a new start.
You have to try and see what happens, maybe we end up with the current status quo, maybe we dont.
As a side effect we lose a big part of the population which is a good thing, gives the rest of the living beings on this planet a few decades to breath through.
We cant really lose.

[Bewolf]

Originally Posted by swiss

Problem is - you cant plan a new start.
You have to try and see what happens, maybe we end up with the current status quo, maybe we dont.
As a side effect we lose a big part of the population which is a good thing, gives the rest of the living beings on this planet a few decades to breath through.
We cant really lose.

That is so cynical I can't even start to ponder what brought you to that attitude.
So you are easily taking into account the loss of a big part of the population? I suppose you do not have a problem being part of that? And you expect a large part of the population sharing your sentiments?

I like my life, I'd like to keep it a bit longer, so no, I do not think that is worth consideration.

Why don't you instead of such talk just go into politics or local interest groups and try to convience some ppl to change that kind of behaviour, the one creating this circle of creation and destruction brought by war? This planet is quickly becoming too highly developed and too ressource depleted to start anew ad infinitum.