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Old 05-07-2012, 06:06 PM
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Should there not be 87- and 100-octane variants in the sim regardless?
Hard to say for me if the Hurricanes had their props replaced with CSP's before the changeover to 100 octane fuel was done. Imho, a CSP Hurricane with 87 octane fuel would be unhistorical and doesn't need to be modelled. Effort would better go elsewhere.
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Old 05-07-2012, 06:09 PM
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Hard to say for me if the Hurricanes had their props replaced with CSP's before the changeover to 100 octane fuel was done. Imho, a CSP Hurricane with 87 octane fuel would be unhistorical and doesn't need to be modelled. Effort would better go elsewhere.
Don't forget that there were some Spitfire and Hurricane (?) that were equipped with Rotol propellers well before the DH props were modified to CSP.
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Old 05-07-2012, 06:14 PM
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Hard to say for me if the Hurricanes had their props replaced with CSP's before the changeover to 100 octane fuel was done. Imho, a CSP Hurricane with 87 octane fuel would be unhistorical and doesn't need to be modelled. Effort would better go elsewhere.
Well I'd agree there, but what about a Hurricane with the 2-stage De Havilland prop for Battle of France scenarios?
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Old 05-07-2012, 06:19 PM
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Assuming they're available. What if someone wants to do a Battle of France scenario?
I don't see where my post argues aginst that issue, my point is we just don't have accurate choice right now.

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An accurate BOB sim would have 87 and 100 octane variants available. Your beef ought to be with mission designers, it seems.
I made no suggestion that it should be only 100 octane, it's just the way things are going we don't have even sifficiently accurate performance for 87 octane, my beef is with whoever is convincing 1C to give us the innacuracy.
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Old 05-07-2012, 06:27 PM
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I don't see where my post argues aginst that issue, my point is we just don't have accurate choice right now.



I made no suggestion that it should be only 100 octane, it's just the way things are going we don't have even sifficiently accurate performance for 87 octane, my beef is with whoever is convincing 1C to give us the innacuracy.
Here's my thing: It just seems like an incredible waste of time and energy to argue about whether ALL or MOST or SOME of Fighter Command was on 100 Octane. I mean.... why is that figure important? Why is it important to know if all or some of fighter command was on 100 octane?

The sim should have both aircraft available IMO. Shouldn't we all be arguing for that?
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Old 05-07-2012, 06:34 PM
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Here's my thing: It just seems like an incredible waste of time and energy to argue about whether ALL or MOST or SOME of Fighter Command was on 100 Octane. I mean.... why is that figure important? Why is it important to know if all or some of fighter command was on 100 octane?

The sim should have both aircraft available IMO. Shouldn't we all be arguing for that?
The real waste of time and energy is from those arguing that 100 octane should not be availabe, of course I would settle for seeing both fuels.
can't you see the reason for this debate is to get 100 octane included?
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can't you see the reason for this debate is to get 100 octane included?
Honestly and truly I really can't. The reason for this 160-page thread appears to be proving each other wrong.
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Old 05-07-2012, 07:17 PM
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Honestly and truly I really can't. The reason for this 160-page thread appears to be proving each other wrong.
yeah...that too .....I mean no it's not, youre wrong.
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Honestly and truly I really can't. The reason for this 160-page thread appears to be proving each other wrong.
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Old 05-08-2012, 04:06 PM
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This plane is 10 miles slower than in real, baahhh, the developers are biased.
That plane had super 007 fuel and performed better than in game, bahhh, the developers are biased.
This planes gun doesn't make big enough holes, bahhh, the developers are biased.
That planes DM is wrong, I looked at it twice and it did not fell apart, baaahhh, the developers are sooo biased.
And so on...

As the Captain says, both planes should be in the game.
However they aren't.
Developers are sure aware of it by now. They might include it at one point - or they might not.
In the meantime get over it and take what is given to you. Like those fighter jocks did back in the days. And they had to survive.
You are having fun.
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