BETA PATCH v1.06.17582 - May 05, 2012

[kendo65]

Originally Posted by Rowddy

thanks for this awsome patch my game is now 100% better playable then before, even over land. Not many stutters left here and i play in highest settings. Great job everyone.

Funnily enough - it's a big improvement performance wise for me too - also with a gtx260. No crashes either. (Maybe some of you folks who splashed out on gtx680s recently might be able to pick one up on EBay? )

I tend to agree with Freycinet (and Ataros, etc) - people need to get their heads around the fact that they have (with another late decision apparently) decided to release an alpha mainly for purpose of getting an expanded user test base to massively increase feedback about bugs. They have concluded that they weren't making good enough progress with a small team of testers.

But, I think where they have screwed up this time is (yet again) in communication. (Ideally) there should have been advance warning of exactly what was going to be released. With everyone on tenterhooks eagerly expecting THE PATCH, to say right at the release that there was changed plans and what we in fact were getting was an alpha obviously didn't really cut through the excitement and eagerness to download and install (labelling the post title as 'beta' didn't help either). There really should have been advance notice and a WARNING not to install unless you were willing to take part in the testing process.

Don't want to be too critical - expect it was all a bit last minute, seat of the pants as usual, but ideally they should have planned/communicated it better.

For those having big problems with the patch the solution is obvious (and easy) - let Steam rewind the game back to its previous state. If you were enjoying it before keep playing the old until the new patch is done. If you weren't enjoying it, play ROF, DCS, or whatever you were into.

For the rest of us, let's do what we can to provide feedback as asked on the (many) issues still to be fixed. That way we all benefit.

[Blackdog_kt]

Originally Posted by kendo65

Funnily enough - it's a big improvement performance wise for me too - also with a gtx260. No crashes either. (Maybe some of you folks who splashed out on gtx680s recently might be able to pick one up on EBay? )

I tend to agree with Freycinet (and Ataros, etc) - people need to get their heads around the fact that they have (with another late decision apparently) decided to release an alpha mainly for purpose of getting an expanded user test base to massively increase feedback about bugs. They have concluded that they weren't making good enough progress with a small team of testers.

But, I think where they have screwed up this time is (yet again) in communication. (Ideally) there should have been advance warning of exactly what was going to be released. With everyone on tenterhooks eagerly expecting THE PATCH, to say right at the release that there was changed plans and what we in fact were getting was an alpha obviously didn't really cut through the excitement and eagerness to download and install (labelling the post title as 'beta' didn't help either). There really should have been advance notice and a WARNING not to install unless you were willing to take part in the testing process.

Don't want to be too critical - expect it was all a bit last minute, seat of the pants as usual, but ideally they should have planned/communicated it better.

For those having big problems with the patch the solution is obvious (and easy) - let Steam rewind the game back to its previous state. If you were enjoying it before keep playing the old until the new patch is done. If you weren't enjoying it, play ROF, DCS, or whatever you were into.

For the rest of us, let's do what we can to provide feedback as asked on the (many) issues still to be fixed. That way we all benefit.

So very true.

Originally Posted by Freycinet

I didn't install this alpha patch and I'm getting the feeling that 99 percent of those who did shouldn't have... - Do those 99 percent even know what an alpha patch is, I ask myself?

1) It is for those who feel really comfortable messing around with their game installation.

2) It is for those who actually read the read-me that comes with the patch.

3) It is for those who are ready to send in info about bugs in the proper format.

4) It is for those who realize that the purpose of installing an alpha patch is not to play the sim, but to take part in the procedure of improving the coding.

That's pretty much it. If anyone is comfortable with the above, apply the patch and test it out a bit.

If you don't like it and don't want to keep testing, just go back to the previous version (verify local game file integrity through Steam and it will roll back your version).

I suggest that everyone should enable crash logs, clear their documents\1c softclub\IL-2 CoD\cache folder, apply the patch and fly with it for a couple of times. Just a couple. If you crash, just send the crash logs to 1c and go back to the previous version. If you don't and you like the new patch, keep flying.

Fly, crash and send the logs, then go back to the previous version if you want to

Originally Posted by Tree_UK

Whats with all this "remember guys this is an alpha patch "bull crap coming from, Blacksix as stated many times that the very reason us suckers have had to wait so long for this 'patch' is that they wanted it to be a proper finished patch and then let us have a beta, not wanting to be seen as team that makes half finished patches. So who is talking bollocks here, is it BlackSix or all you disciples who keep telling us that its an Alpha patch?

They said so, but many were constantly asking for some early scraps to cut their teeth into. They got it, half-baked or not, so they better start chewing or don't ever bring up the subject again.

You see, they can't expect to change their set of "requirements" depending on whatever suits their usual point scoring and "tit-for-tat" argumentation and expect that
a) nobody will call them out on their self-contradictions and
b) they will maintain any sort of credibility.

To afford them that luxury is to afford them the luxury of considering the rest of us idiots and frankly, i don't know how the rest of the community feels but i'm not going to do them such a favor.


Also...

[Moderating mode on]
This is a forum with people of different ages and background, not a small gathering between long-time mates at the pub. You keep doing this and ignoring any pointers to correct this behaviour, so i'll say it in a way you'll understand. Pleas sir, mind your ******* language
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Nothing personal, i just don't want you wondering again if i personally dislike you, when in reality it's just your infraction points adding up to another ban

[planespotter]

I am very disappointed in this alpha patch. I thought it would be a proper alpha and I would get to do proper testing and send crashlogs and stuff. Apart from the graphic things I now miss like damage from MG hits, I have not any problems or crashes to report. My fps is about same, but stutters much less. I can't see any difference in FMs as I am not expert to spot them. Also I can't get wingman commands to work still, but that is probably me - how to tell if they are working or not? Someone has a good test case?

Anyway, call this an alpha patch? Shame on you! Is beta at least...

;(

Oh, my machine Acer i7 laptop gtx 560m 2G vram, 4g system ram

[SiThSpAwN]

Originally Posted by planespotter

Anyway, call this an alpha patch? Shame on you! Is beta at least...

;(

Huh?

[CaptainDoggles]

Originally Posted by planespotter

I am very disappointed in this alpha patch. I thought it would be a proper alpha and I would get to do proper testing and send crashlogs and stuff. Apart from the graphic things I now miss like damage from MG hits, I have not any problems or crashes to report. My fps is about same, but stutters much less. I can't see any difference in FMs as I am not expert to spot them. Also I can't get wingman commands to work still, but that is probably me - how to tell if they are working or not? Someone has a good test case?

Anyway, call this an alpha patch? Shame on you! Is beta at least...

;(

Oh, my machine Acer i7 laptop gtx 560m 2G vram, 4g system ram

FYI for those of you unaware.... "Beta" is closer to the finished product than "Alpha".

Alpha - still missing features, can cause crashes, etc etc.

Beta - product is "feature complete" but work remains to be done

[Insuber]

That's why alpha should go to a selected group of knowledgeable people, as Freycinet said. Some humor now. I was reading a Dilbert strip (no offense intended to anyone, it's just a joke):

Dilbert, presenting his project to his bald boss:

"we interviewed hundreds of users and turned out all of their suggestions into features"
"as it turns out, every user we talked to was an idiot, and their dumb suggestions ruined our product"
"in hindsight, we probably should have talked to people who work outside this building..."

I just found that funny ...

Cheers!

[GF_Mastiff]

Originally Posted by Insuber

That's why alpha should go to a selected group of knowledgeable people, as Freycinet said. Some humor now. I was reading a Dilbert strip (no offense intended to anyone, it's just a joke):

Dilbert, presenting his project to his bald boss:

"we interviewed hundreds of users and turned out all of their suggestions into features"
"as it turns out, every user we talked to was an idiot, and their dumb suggestions ruined our product"
"in hindsight, we probably should have talked to people who work outside this building..."

I just found that funny ...

Cheers!

+1

[GF_Mastiff]

just remember guys, it was released to us in hopes of helping Illya and Clod Company, in getting this Sim in a good state of release. The more machines this is running on with reports will help get the bugs out.