BETA PATCH v1.06.17582 - May 05, 2012

Whats with all this "remember guys this is an alpha patch "bull crap coming from, Blacksix as stated many times that the very reason us suckers have had to wait so long for this 'patch' is that they wanted it to be a proper finished patch and then let us have a beta, not wanting to be seen as team that makes half finished patches. So who is talking bollocks here, is it BlackSix or all you disciples who keep telling us that its an Alpha patch?

[SiThSpAwN]

Originally Posted by Tree_UK

Whats with all this "remember guys this is an alpha patch "bull crap coming from, Blacksix as stated many times that the very reason us suckers have had to wait so long for this 'patch' is that they wanted it to be a proper finished patch and then let us have a beta, not wanting to be seen as team that makes half finished patches. So who is talking bollocks here, is it BlackSix or all you disciples who keep telling us that its an Alpha patch?

Or perhaps the problems go beyond their testing capabilities, and releasing an alpha patch expands the data collecting capabilities to be able to better squash bugs... right now its going to be how fast they turn out new versions of this patch with the collected data... or just keep thinking their ultimate plan is to turn out a crap game because that will enable them to sell more games in the future much better... lol... come on...

[Damixu]

I made an promise to a forum moderator, I won't rock the boat upon lifting my unfounded ban. So my comment here is on this "alpha" patch:

At least the patch was way more lenient than on WW2OL players back in early days. Their beta patch did wipe out unfortunate downloaders hard drives...

Cheers!

[Ataros]

Originally Posted by Tree_UK

Whats with all this "remember guys this is an alpha patch "bull crap coming from, Blacksix as stated many times that the very reason us suckers have had to wait so long for this 'patch' is that they wanted it to be a proper finished patch and then let us have a beta, not wanting to be seen as team that makes half finished patches. So who is talking bollocks here, is it BlackSix or all you disciples who keep telling us that its an Alpha patch?

You are trying to make your point using outdated information similar to DX11 case. Devs made a different decision on May 05, 2012 as goes from the patch notes.

BTW information that luthier mentioned that DX11 will be their priority one year ago is also outdated.

When time passes different decisions are made and priorities change. It is logical, reasonable and in general clever to take time and changes into account, isn't it? Without logic being used it is not an argument but trolling.

[CaptainDoggles]

Originally Posted by Tree_UK

Whats with all this "remember guys this is an alpha patch "bull crap coming from, Blacksix as stated many times that the very reason us suckers have had to wait so long for this 'patch' is that they wanted it to be a proper finished patch and then let us have a beta, not wanting to be seen as team that makes half finished patches. So who is talking bollocks here, is it BlackSix or all you disciples who keep telling us that its an Alpha patch?

Hey Tree, it's an alpha patch. Read BlackSix's post.

I guess they're testing Geometry Shaders, as that's the only real reason to go from dx9 to dx10.

Originally Posted by CaptainDoggles

Hey Tree, it's an alpha patch. Read BlackSix's post.

I guess they're testing Geometry Shaders, as that's the only real reason to go from dx9 to dx10.

Captain, once again, Tree is right ! This rushed release (once again !) unfinnished patch makes no sense at all considering what we have been told for the last few months....Why not have waited till the grass, clouds and particules issues been solved ? That is exactly why the patch had been kept from us for that long...AT this stage, IMHO, we should at least have the vast majority getting much better performances, considering the fact that grass and clouds are " disabled " !!!! You know, FooBar was banned for bringing up the old patch thread...Well, go back and read it again...SAME FREAKIN' THING !!! We are basically at the same stage ! Once again, was Tree really out of line we he " doubted" devs explanations and last minute delays regarding the patch ?

[Winger]

Originally Posted by XL5

Captain, once again, Tree is right ! This rushed release (once again !) unfinnished patch makes no sense at all considering what we have been told for the last few months....Why not have waited till the grass, clouds and particules issues been solved ? That is exactly why the patch had been kept from us for that long...AT this stage, IMHO, we should at least have the vast majority getting much better performances, considering the fact that grass and clouds are " disabled " !!!! You know, FooBar was banned for bringing up the old patch thread...Well, go back and read it again...SAME FREAKIN' THING !!! We are basically at the same stage ! Once again, was Tree really out of line we he " doubted" devs explanations and last minute delays regarding the patch ?

2 days of many flight hours and only 1 launcher crash. For me this is a big improvement since the CTDs were THE major gamebreaker.
I am sure performance will be further increased in the coming weeks.

Winger

[CaptainDoggles]

Originally Posted by XL5

Captain, once again, Tree is right ! This rushed release (once again !) unfinnished patch

I don't understand.... did you expect an alpha patch to be "finished"?

makes no sense at all considering what we have been told for the last few months....Why not have waited till the grass, clouds and particules issues been solved ?

I would probably have preferred they done that, but lots of folks here were clamoring for 1C to just release it in whatever state it was in.

That is exactly why the patch had been kept from us for that long...AT this stage, IMHO, we should at least have the vast majority getting much better performances, considering the fact that grass and clouds are " disabled " !!!!

I have no idea what you are talking about. My game has grass and clouds. Grass and clouds certainly aren't disabled.

You know, FooBar was banned for bringing up the old patch thread...

Foobar was banned for resurrecting and old thread to troll everyone into thinking a patch has been released. I'm glad he got banned.

As for the patch: Anyone who knows anything about software development (game engine development in particular) knows that writing a render pipeline essentially from scratch is a hugely involved task. Fixing crashes is mostly just finding corner-cases that you overlooked.

Originally Posted by CaptainDoggles

I don't understand.... did you expect an alpha patch to be "finished"?

Since when this patch was supposed to be "alpha" ? Go back and read again all Bsix updates...for the last 10 weeks...

Originally Posted by CaptainDoggles

I would probably have preferred they done that, but lots of folks here were clamoring for 1C to just release it in whatever state it was in.

Since when 1C gets influenced by impatient "whiners" to the point of releasing a barely working patch ?

Originally Posted by CaptainDoggles

I have no idea what you are talking about. My game has grass and clouds. Grass and clouds certainly aren't disabled.

Really ?

Known Issues

• Not fully optimized: grass, clouds, and trees. Clouds cause constant FPS drop; grass and trees cause hick-ups. A few extra days of work for this, a few days for grass, few days for clouds, we felt that we could start open testing the patch without waiting for these changes.
• Texture cache failing to draw higher-res textures on close-up objects with lower settings on below-recommended video cards.
• Weathering textures on aircraft appear shiny in shadows.
• No damage decals on aircraft from small-caliber hits.
• The hit flash effects are temporarily turned off.
• Far and medium distance clouds are temporarily turned off.
• Text in dialogue windows in the mission builder may appear bugged with other dialogue windows underneath.
• The front line in mission builder and minimap is drawn incorrectly.

Originally Posted by CaptainDoggles

Foobar was banned for resurrecting and old thread to troll everyone into thinking a patch has been released. I'm glad he got banned.

Glad he was banned ? Even the MOds are sad it happened...Anyway... I was referring to the content of the thread...Not to the one who put it back...

Originally Posted by CaptainDoggles

As for the patch: Anyone who knows anything about software development (game engine development in particular) knows that writing a render pipeline essentially from scratch is a hugely involved task. Fixing crashes is mostly just finding corner-cases that you overlooked.

We know that...Once again and read all the past Bsix updates where he states something like this : We don't want to ruch anything out till all is fixed and working good...We wouldn't want to get flamed again !

[Insuber]

Originally Posted by XL5

Since when this patch was supposed to be "alpha" ? Go back and read again all Bsix updates...for the last 10 weeks...

Since the first post of this very thread: "The patch is ready! What we have today is a DX10-only alpha".