BETA PATCH v1.06.17582 thoughts.

[Ze-Jamz]

People will stay and play if we have regular updates and patches to test..simple as that..

Id rather have an unfinished Alpha/Beta whatever you wanna call it to test and see than nothing at all...its the nothing at all that f*ks people off, especially at this stage of the game as in when it was first released.

Plus it helps the Devs...

For the life of me I don't know why we were not testing this before now, I guess they have their reasons

[III/JG53_Don]

Nice thread Majo! Sure the pressure must be overwhelming for the devs and I feel a bit sorry for them.

We demanded the patch and now we got one which is unfinished in few parts. Damned if they do, damned if they don't!

Allthough I must admit that I am a bit confused about the results of the patch ( esp. the results relating to worse or same performance of many users ) (see my post http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthr...t=31780&page=7) I am just saying to myself that this is due to the patch being nothing more like an alpha to crush the remaining bugs of the new engine.

Since they stated that users should see at least a 50% increase (or more like 100% considering the comment on "roughly doubles the fps) I just hope that this Alpha/Beta is no reflection of the upcoming official patch. And with that Im not talking about the graphic bugs which are expected by me due to the extensive engine rewrite.

[Ailantd]

The problem is that for a lot of people, me included, and after a lot of months, this patch does not fix anything and "breaks" a lot of things that worked well. For that people there is nothing in this patch that can be seen in a positive way but a steep backwards, and for a lot of people that is very hard to assume after all this time, even being alpha, beta or gamma. I´m in the industry myself and I can understand that a mayor rework has this problems. But even me expected more than this for a patch that they have decided to launch for testing. They claimed almost no CTD, but a lot of us are experiencing CTD every 10 minutes even offline. I can´t see how this could go through their own beta testing. It´s not like they would say, we are experiencing CTD every 10 min, but we can´t found the problem, we need your help and logs to catch it... I could understand that.

[GraveyardJimmy]

Originally Posted by Ailantd

The problem is that for a lot of people, me included, and after a lot of months, this patch does not fix anything and "breaks" a lot of things that worked well. For that people there is nothing in this patch that can be seen in a positive way but a steep backwards, and for a lot of people that is very hard to assume after all this time, even being alpha, beta or gamma. I´m in the industry myself and I can understand that a mayor rework has this problems. But even me expected more than this for a patch that they have decided to launch for testing. They claimed almost no CTD, but a lot of us are experiencing CTD every 10 minutes even offline. I can´t see how this could go through their own beta testing. It´s not like they would say, we are experiencing CTD every 10 min, but we can´t found the problem, we need your help and logs to catch it... I could understand that.

One of the programmers said in relation to CTD:

"this beta was aimed at the elimination of the graphics and the game crashes and memory leaks, some problems (such as, for example, joint flight departures for several multiengined planes) were found and Fixed, but unfortunately not all, we hope, with dumps from a large number of players remaining will be easier to locate. "

[Ailantd]

Originally Posted by GraveyardJimmy

One of the programmers said in relation to CTD:

"this beta was aimed at the elimination of the graphics and the game crashes and memory leaks, some problems (such as, for example, joint flight departures for several multiengined planes) were found and Fixed, but unfortunately not all, we hope, with dumps from a large number of players remaining will be easier to locate. "

Yes I know, they also said they have found only 0.8 CTD day.
A lot of people have over 144 CTD day.

[GraveyardJimmy]

Originally Posted by Ailantd

Yes I know, they also said they have found only 0.8 CTD day.
A lot of people have over 144 CTD day.

So help them out. Send crash dumps. If they cant get them, they cant fix them!

[Ailantd]

Yes, I know.
Don´t take me wrong, I still have hope, less hope, but hope. As other people have already said... there is no other WWII sim out there that can compares with CLOD after all. And with a dying genre like this, we have to support this whatever the situation.

[DroopSnoot]

I dont think they can fix the game anymore imo, If they could they would have done it by now. They are trying to fix someone elses code, thats no easy feat and some might say impossible.

As far as dump logs/crash logs go, ive been sending them since they first asked us to back at release, if they had looked at them maybe it would have helped.
Have a look for the thread from last year (if it hasnt been deleted as it was quite some time ago) were loads of people posted their crash logs, see how many were picked up.

[Peaveywolf]

Well, I can now play with good fps with textures on original and shadows on, so I see this as a positive. I can happily cope with the pitfalls of loading an Alpha/beta patch. They never said it was definitive. An Alpha/beta is exactly what it says on the tin.

[the Dutchman]

I personally think that after a full year of higher expectatives, now I do not care any more about tomorrow,
next two weeks, nor even next month…
I care about getting things right by the CloD 1C team. I care about the CloD 1C team taking back the control
of the situation.

Obviously they are not capable,and trust me,it hurts me maybe even more than them..