4.12 development update discussion and feedback

[Flanker1985]

Originally Posted by csThor

Flanker: I suppose you are talking about DGen, aren't you? Well, then I have bad news for you: the old DGen is a dead end. There is someone developing a new version based on the original source code but he is doing this on his own and still has to go a long way. TD has no means to modify, enhance or correct the old campaigns of the old DGen nor can we create new ones - all possible campaign slots are taken and in some cases even twice or even tree times used by different campaign packs.

Thanks sir. At least now I know. But are they considering to add more non-DGen historical campaign? Like for British and Italians.

[IceFire]

Originally Posted by Flanker1985

Thanks sir. At least now I know. But are they considering to add more non-DGen historical campaign? Like for British and Italians.

Are you talking about dynamic campaigns or hand crafted ones?

I can see doing some hand crafted campaigns for the Regia Aeronautica and RAF on the new Tunisia map that's being worked on.

[Flanker1985]

Originally Posted by IceFire

Are you talking about dynamic campaigns or hand crafted ones?

I can see doing some hand crafted campaigns for the Regia Aeronautica and RAF on the new Tunisia map that's being worked on.

Both, as long as it is historical campaign.
Really? You are working on Italy and RAF campaign?! That's great!! Thanks sir!! Are you going to put Sicily landing and the liberation of Italy in it as well?

[pencon]

I think AI wingmen actually following orders and attacking your opponents and just generally being functional on both sides , should be the biggest priority in the offline mode .Right now they just all fly off in quick mission and are generally useless just like in Cliffs .

[fruitbat]

Originally Posted by pencon

I think AI wingmen actually following orders and attacking your opponents and just generally being functional on both sides , should be the biggest priority in the offline mode .Right now they just all fly off in quick mission and are generally useless just like in Cliffs .

disagree with this, AI can be commanded very successfully if you know how in il2.

padlock is your friend...

[Treetop64]

Originally Posted by fruitbat

disagree with this, AI can be commanded very successfully if you know how in il2.

padlock is your friend...

Truth.

[pencon]

Ok guys Obviously then , there's something wrong with my AI settings because when I give them a command to even change various formation requests, they just say yes they' ll follow they order, then they just don't respond .Also when you tell them to attack fighters ,they say they will ,and then just fly off .Is there something in the conf ini folder , that can change this?

[secretone]

Originally Posted by pencon

I think AI wingmen actually following orders and attacking your opponents and just generally being functional on both sides , should be the biggest priority in the offline mode .Right now they just all fly off in quick mission and are generally useless just like in Cliffs .

I agree! I am so tired of hearing "I got you covered" and then seeing my wingman go off after a target on his own.

With that being said, some Air Forces seem to have had better teamwork than others. For example American unit discipline appears to have been very strong while, from my reading, the Japanese were less team players...

[ElAurens]

Originally Posted by secretone

from my reading, the Japanese were less team players...

Indeed. Teamwork had little place in their cultural ethos of the Samurai, at least as far as fighter pilots went. The Japanese air services clung to an outdated tactical dicta, that of one on one aerial combat. And quite honestly, in the early stages of the war, they had the best trained pilots in the world in the art of dogfighting. The Army and Navy flight schools washed out many, many good pilots to crew positions, that would have been aces in any other air force.

This of course came back to bite them hard as they were unable to quickly replace ever growing losses from 1943 onwards. New Guinea in particular became a meat grinder for Imperial Japanese Army Air Corps pilots, as the Allies better understood how to use their faster, more heavily built aircraft against the Japanese. There is an amazing statistic the book "Fire in The Sky", the Japanese army lost 350 veteran pilots that had over 500 combat hours in New Guinea. This gutted their base of experienced pilots and they never fully recovered.

[JtD]

The battles of the Coral Sea and Midway did for the IJN what NG did for the IJA. The early Japanese successes were only possible because of the excellent pilot qualities, and when these pilots were lost, the IJN had no advantage left.

This Samurai attitude btw. wasn't even limited to the air forces, same was true for about every branch of armed forces the Japanese. The Japanese were supposed to be superior soldiers to make up for low numbers and bad equipment. If your cannon doesn't penetrate the enemies armour while his cannon can pierce yours at 2000m, you'll still win because you're the better soldier. Or not. In some aspects, the Japanese attitude was quite extreme.

But this is going off topic.