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[Stublerone]

Common guys, nobody ever critizised the FM of a blackshark or an A10 and compared it to real life behaviour, like we do here on cod. I doubt, that even it all has a "military simulator" in its history, that the ED engine has that powerful and up to date FM integrated.

Think about the requirements of the military to train people? They always say, that simulating flight aspects is always too difficult to simulate. They need it to train the brain of the pilots and to train the systems and what to do in different conditions. The FM is not as important for the military as the fully functional cockpit instruments. It is not a very detailed flight simulator, but is a highly detailed systems simulator.
I doubt, that the FM is taken as serious as it is taken for CloD. CloD with its old rudimentary systems cannot compete by nature with such a grade of clickable procedures. The main topic in ww2 aircraft is to manage flight technical things by ear, eyes, and the few gauges in a cockpit. You need much more flight dynamic accuracy, than u need in a fully autopilot computer controlled aircraft with a bunch of helping mechanisms.

So in my view, dcs will never reach comparable flight dynamics to CloD. But this is also not the intention of such a sim. It has other things to care of.

So i doubt, that the flight feeling of p51 will reach the p51 in clod, as soon as it is there. I have never flown a sim like the il2 series, where you have the same feeling of really having air under the wings.

It is matter of priorities, but I think the classics collection in dcs will not reach il2 series. They will have their enormous potential in newer aircraft with weapon systems to simulate.

Hope, they will get some life into the sims, because it always has a strange dead feeling, when u just flying around! Not to speak about the missions.

[ACE-OF-ACES]

Originally Posted by Stublerone

They need it to train the brain of the pilots and to train the systems and what to do in different conditions. The FM is not as important for the military as the fully functional cockpit instruments. It is not a very detailed flight simulator, but is a highly detailed systems simulator.

Agreed 100%!

Most military flight simulators don't bother traning ACM.. It is all about the systems.. So there is a chance that the DCS FM may be lacking in realism.. Too soon to tell but I hope we are wrong..

If this P51 goes well for DCS.. Who knows.. They may shift thier focus a little? I hope so because their game engine is top notch!

[ACE-OF-ACES]

Back on topic

I got online last night.. Was able to start the engine.. Was able to taxi out to the runway.. But wow.. Three trys Three FAILS to get off the ground! I think my problem is I don't know how to lock the tail wheel? Once she gets a little side motion going I try to correct and induce one hell of a PIO and wammo.. This game makes me feel like a NOOB!

[bongodriver]

Originally Posted by ACE-OF-ACES

Back on topic

I got online last night.. Was able to start the engine.. Was able to taxi out to the runway.. But wow.. Three trys Three FAILS to get off the ground! I think my problem is I don't know how to lock the tail wheel? Once she gets a little side motion going I try to correct and induce one hell of a PIO and wammo.. This game makes me feel like a NOOB!

I found out the same way, it seems you really need to keep the stick back on its stops untill about 100mph then you can ease off, by then the AC will be lifting off so be carefull not to stall, also 5-6 degrees right rudder trim but be prepared to bias some left pedal on the roll, smoothly go to full power....do not slam it open, works for me 100% now.

[ACE-OF-ACES]

I recall reading somewhere that holding the stick back on some planes does lock the tail wheel.. I wonder if that is what goes on here?

Originally Posted by ACE-OF-ACES

I recall reading somewhere that holding the stick back on some planes does lock the tail wheel.. I wonder if that is what goes on here?

correct. hold it back till 100 mph then if requiring 2 wheel take off (tail rising) allow tail to rise naturally and apply rudder, if requiring 3 wheel take off, keep applying back presure.

[SiThSpAwN]

Do the training for take-off once, it is a big help.