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Old 05-04-2012, 12:15 AM
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You tell 'em Doc!

Fired up the A-10 tonight just to remind myself. The whole environment looks far worse than old IL2.

Wouldn't want to fly anything in that dead place, let alone spend more money on it.
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Old 05-04-2012, 12:47 AM
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You tell 'em Doc!

Fired up the A-10 tonight just to remind myself. The whole environment looks far worse than old IL2.

Wouldn't want to fly anything in that dead place, let alone spend more money on it.
The thing that always got me was the developers said they were working on dedicated server files for A10. This was while it was a beta. So not only do you not have any environment to speak of, you can't even have a true MP experience on a real dedicated machine. AKA - you need a graphics card to run a server in that game.

I'm not buying it until they come through with the MP aspect. 2 years and counting
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Old 05-04-2012, 01:05 AM
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Might want to check your facts, Bliss.

The 159th and many other LOMAC/ DCS squads are running dedicated servers. Don't have the specs to hand... And you may be right about the dedi needing a GFX card..... But it IS doable and it is being done.
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Old 05-04-2012, 01:16 AM
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Might want to check your facts, Bliss.

The 159th and many other LOMAC/ DCS squads are running dedicated servers. Don't have the specs to hand... And you may be right about the dedi needing a GFX card..... But it IS doable and it is being done.
My facts are correct. It appears you don't quite understand what a real dedicated server is. 1st off the large majority of them are rack mounted machines that don't have video cards. These are located, for instance, like our dedicated machines with access to high amounts of bandwidth.

The only thing people are doing in A10 is running a home pc (AKA using their crappy home ISP) to host a MP game. If you can find one A10 server that has ever had over 50 players in it, I'll eat my shorts.

If you want me to conjure up the post from ED concerning my facts that I mentioned in the 1st post (AKA - dedicated server support) a simple google search can find it for you. Next time you might want to know the facts yourself.

Edit: Here's from ED's forums. Notice they even give the definition of what a dedicated server is and the value of having what is known in the industry as "dedicated server support".

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It looks like they have just added it to their list of things to do - do not know if it will be patched in soon. For an expansion pack maybe as a selling feature - including Nevada terrain

The value of Multiplayer Dedicated Servers had to be explained in the thread. A dedicated server program does not need a fancy graphics card to run the game. All it needs to do is handle the data packets coming in from users(clients).
That means you can use old computers that were likely to be tossed out anyway. And you can run multiple versions at once (as long as your internet pipes are big enough).
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Old 05-04-2012, 01:30 AM
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Sorry Bliss. We're predominently a UK squad.

Our dedicated server is located at a server farm in California. How much more remote do you think we could get it?

We had a squad member in the area who handles the intial install of the server (including the fitting of a GFX card). He has now left the squad due to other commitments. The server is still running and the staff at the server farm are more than happy for it to do so.

Now I've been amember of the 159th since they formed in 2003, and although I'm no longer an active flyer, I'm still a member. I was also CO of the squad for about six years....... I really don't think you're in a position to tell me what my squad has or hasn't done with regard to dedicated servers.
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Old 05-04-2012, 01:39 AM
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I take it you don't read very well. Perhaps take another gander at the post from ED forums, the one I labeled "Dedicated Server". Your server is not the traditional dedicated server. The post, especially the part in bold talking about NOT USING A VIDEO CARD, highlights that.

Let me explain it a bit more simply. ED stated they were working on dedicated server support back when A10 was a beta. Then they showed the advantages of "dedicated server" files, even going as far as explaining what it is. One advantage happens to be that you DO NOT NEED a VIDEO CARD to run a server.

To this day you NEED A GFX Card to run a server for A10 - AKA, ED has not released dedicated server support for A10 yet. Perhaps read their own forums and you can learn all about it yourself.

I'm not interested in the history of your squad or anything you say tbh. My facts are just that, facts. ED has already explained them for you if you can take the time to read.

Edit: It appears the people at SimHq also appear to know what dedicated server support is.

From their own review of A10 found here: http://www.simhq.com/_air13/air_462g.html

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Multiplayer datalink broken
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Old 05-04-2012, 01:41 AM
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Old 05-04-2012, 03:37 AM
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You tell 'em Doc!

Fired up the A-10 just to remind myself. The whole environment looks far worse than old IL2.

Wouldn't want to fly anything in that dead place, let alone spend more money on it.
me too



the game has aged quite badly, we really need some fresh air in this industry

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Old 05-04-2012, 04:30 AM
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me too



the game has aged quite badly, we really need some fresh air in this industry
I hope this is a joke A10C DCS looks nothing like this!

or is that all your computer can handle?

Just so other know it looks like this
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Old 05-04-2012, 05:47 AM
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oh gosh, i'd better reinstall the drivers
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