"Friday" Update, April 28, 2012

[GraveyardJimmy]

Originally Posted by Redroach

Holy dogfighting batman! Where have you been over the last year?

Here, I bought it full price day one.

Originally Posted by Redroach

I don't know what's going on in the dev office and I don't want to, but one thing is for certain: Bugs are (mostly) NOT fixed.

The patch is being worked on fixing FM and performance. Once there is a stable engine then they can fix the (in comparison) relatively minor bugs. Unless you have evidence from the developers to say there is no and will not be a patch, stop making thigns up. Yes it has taken a long time, we've all been waiting. That doesn't mean it wont come at all.

Originally Posted by Redroach

But if you got any reasonable explanation why my no.1 issue is not cared about since day 1, I'm more than willing to listen

What is your number 1 issue? radio communication? In comparison to terrible performance and CTD it is a secondary bug. When they have fixed the engine there will inevitably be more fixes for bugs. One thing that naysayers dont realise:

1)there is evidence of the sequel, they have hired external devs to do maps etc.

2) They want people to buy this sequel

3)Therefore they will fix the shared engine of the two games so that we have enough faith to buy the next one.

Explain why they would bother to work on a sequel if they were going to release it into a broken engine? They wouldn't. They need (and are working on) to fix CoD in order to get sales for BoM. Noone would by BoM if there are no fixes, performance patches for CoD that they have promised.

Rather than assuming there is no patch (making things up) wait and see what the next patch brings. If there is no next patch, there is no BoM.

[III/JG53_Don]

In fact in an earlier Update luthier made clear that some of the Radio Commands are now working. So no reason to complain on that issue

What makes it more comfortable is that they deleted all commands that dont work at the moment. This was a pain in the back for me personally. Constantly using the radio commands to look which of them works and which dont.
Kinda like the control menu with tons of commands which dont have any use right now. (Like Fire extinguisher, feathered prop and all the vehicle controls) That makes it unnecessary complicated for newbies in a simulation which is already complicated enough (--> totally missing handbook/pdf for engine startups and plane handling) .
As I've said it before some time ago... how do they expect to gain new customers without any kind of a helping hand.... not every customer looks for forums to find out why this god**** engine wont start or constantly break during flight.

This should be a must-have for the coming sequel INCLUDING CoD , having a pdf at the CD or in steam file with a comment in the little Flyer nowaday called handbook where to find this pdf.
An integrated handbook within the game structure itself (perhaps even acessable during flight) would be the best choice imho.

[Sutts]

Originally Posted by GraveyardJimmy

Here, I bought it full price day one.



The patch is being worked on fixing FM and performance. Once there is a stable engine then they can fix the (in comparison) relatively minor bugs. Unless you have evidence from the developers to say there is no and will not be a patch, stop making thigns up. Yes it has taken a long time, we've all been waiting. That doesn't mean it wont come at all.



What is your number 1 issue? radio communication? In comparison to terrible performance and CTD it is a secondary bug. When they have fixed the engine there will inevitably be more fixes for bugs. One thing that naysayers dont realise:

1)there is evidence of the sequel, they have hired external devs to do maps etc.

2) They want people to buy this sequel

3)Therefore they will fix the shared engine of the two games so that we have enough faith to buy the next one.

Explain why they would bother to work on a sequel if they were going to release it into a broken engine? They wouldn't. They need (and are working on) to fix CoD in order to get sales for BoM. Noone would by BoM if there are no fixes, performance patches for CoD that they have promised.

Rather than assuming there is no patch (making things up) wait and see what the next patch brings. If there is no next patch, there is no BoM.

+1

Well put

[Redroach]

Last time I checked, my radio commands are N-O-T working. But it's quite awesome that you try to make me produce 'evidence'. You, sir, play in a class of its own.

Btw: I had no problems with CTDs, un-playable performance (though framerates could have been better, of course) etc. since day 1. I've got a medium-range PC (by the standards of 1 year ago), I tend to keep my crate in good shape and I set up reasonable GFX settings. There's a reason why radio commands are my no.1 issue.

Those things aside: Rewriting the graphics engine for the second time now says enough.

[III/JG53_Don]

I was talking about the patch of course, not about our official version

Artificial Intelligence
Partial list:
• Fixed some non-working orders, removed others from the list. There are no more orders available to the player that the AI does not follow.
• Added a request for available targets;

So at least some of them ARE working in the upcoming patch. When we have hands on the patch and there are maybe only 2 minor commands working and the vast majority of important commands not.... then you have reason to complain.
No one here knows which commands will work.

[Volksieg]

Originally Posted by III/JG53_Don

When we have hands on the patch and there are maybe only 2 minor commands working and the vast majority of important commands not.... then you have reason to complain.
No one here knows which commands will work.

I dunno about that.... you could say they have even less reason to complain as, with just two working commands (Minor or not).... they still have more than they did pre-patch!

When a man asks for £50 and is offered £20..... the foolish man throws the £20 back in their face. The wise man takes the £20 graciously and then tries to figure out where the £30 is coming from.

[jibo]

No need to make a cheese out of it like we say in france.

Let's say the new graphical engine still needs work on the rendering side
is that another everest to overcome ? No.
considering the given issues (several black textures and artefacts) those are very common.
Apart from that the engine is apparently running well.
Performance and Stability are partying together like never before.
Regarding the ETA , they expressed their wish to improve the reputation of the soft, which means no scaring alpha screenshots with ugly artefacts on it moving along the web. just imagine :
-" look this is the last Cod" - " woah, things are getting better"
therefore they will have to fix each "bugs" one by one, this could take several weeks before a new DX10 beta patch is out.

[Fansadox]

This whole CLOD situation is starting to piss me off... I have been waiting for a proper game to play for over a long period now. I expect the guys behind CLOD and 1C to at least give the customers that bought CLOD in its Pre Alpha state at release back then to give a discount for the upcomming title.

I have supported you guys over the last eleven years starting with the initial release of IL2 back in 2001. But this is just a nightmare scenario imo.

Yours Faithfully Sam

[Volksieg]

As I've always stated.... I do understand people's rage! Heck! When I first bought CloD I was absolutely infuriated! One thing I will say, though, is those people out there who have a rough time in single player should really give multiplayer a go! I know that sounds utter madness but I can hardly fly any of the single player missions without my PC grinding to a halt yet I spend a lot of time on ATAG and ACG server having an absolute whale of a time! Seriously! Get online and get your money's worth!

Why multiplayer seems to run much better than singleplayer? I have no idea but I do know I'm not the only person to have found this. Check out my system specs below! Sure... that's a pretty good PC for many games out there (I play Skyrim on Ultra settings for instance) but, Simulator-wise, it is pretty low spec is it not? There are guys in my squadron (JG 26. We are recruiting, by the way!) with PCs that make mine look like some kind of gift from the gods.

[Redroach]

Originally Posted by III/JG53_Don

I was talking about the patch of course, not about our official version


So at least some of them ARE working in the upcoming patch. When we have hands on the patch and there are maybe only 2 minor commands working and the vast majority of important commands not.... then you have reason to complain.
No one here knows which commands will work.

Lol, some months ago, I had similar words in my signature like the ones you quoted, to point out the ridiculousness. They came from an official sneak preview about the then-upcoming patch. I believe it was dated 24.06.2011. Too bad I took them out!