"Friday" Update, April 28, 2012

The most worrying thing about this update is they still havent got DX9 to work? Really? DX9 is outdated.

Reading this update screams to me that this patch will be a long way away from release.

[Insuber]

Originally Posted by tarks

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Reading this update screams to me that this patch will be a long way away from release.

Not necessarily so. Imho debugging is like hitting a big stone with a hammer. You hit it for 100 times and nothing happens, the 101st time the stone breaks up.

Have a nice weekend!

It's not anything to to with B6 , but I think the information the devs tell him to tell us is just so we shut up for another week. How did they go from saying the patch will be out in a few more days with everything running well to a list of new game stopping bugs.

I think they just tell us what we want to hear.

[bongodriver]

I think they just tell us what we want to hear.

Interesting.....I thought everybody wanted to hear the patch is ready and released.

[darktatka]

Well, I just hope the DEVs realize that almost whole market interested in The Sequel already bought CloD and will REALLY think twice about putting their money on the table until CloD is in usable state. I know I will.

The news are in fact good news, for these reasons:
a) There is big change in general attitude of PR. From cocky to humble. You learned a lot about dealing with angry customers.
b) It is written in English, which as well shows respect to customers (previous messages came across as "look, we couldn't be bothered to hire a person who can write proper English". Kudos to B6 for learning quickly).
c) It does not make false promises.

I'm happy with that.

Anyway, my advice - think small, bite smaller bites. Fix one thing in a month. Ship it. Fix other thing. Ship it.

Is hurricane radiator wrongly initialized? Fix it. Ship it.

Regular (however trivial) updates once a month are better then one year of promises of The Patch. You chose reliable update delivering platform (Steam) and not taking any advantages of it.

I'd rather bitch about having to update AGAIN then about not being able to update at all.

[bongodriver]

Well, I just hope the DEVs realize that almost whole market interested in The Sequel already bought CloD and will REALLY think twice about putting their money on the table until CloD is in usable state. I know I will.

The whole point people miss with this one is the is no sequel without a 'working' engine, there is no suggestion of the sequel being sold before the COD patches because the patches are what is intended to make a 'working' engine, there has been 'no' suggestion that the sequel will have to be purchased to get the COD patch, but the sequel 'will' bring extra features to COD as a merged instalation....hopefully the dynamic weather everyone wants etc.

[Volksieg]

Originally Posted by bongodriver

The whole point people miss with this one is the is no sequel without a 'working' engine, there is no suggestion of the sequel being sold before the COD patches because the patches are what is intended to make a 'working' engine, there has been 'no' suggestion that the sequel will have to be purchased to get the COD patch, but the sequel 'will' bring extra features to COD as a merged instalation....hopefully the dynamic weather everyone wants etc.

+ 1

Of course..... you can type the above till the cows come home..... there will still be those who don't get the point. No fixed Cliffs of Dover = No sequel. Just as there will always be those out there who will never grasp the fact that it would be disastrous to force 3D Modellers or mission designers to fix code. I imagine some of the people on this forum waiting for a bus and, when the bus doesn't turn up on time, haranguing the nearest street sweeper and asking him why he isn't driving them to their destination.

"Excuse me, Ambulance driver! I've been waiting for this Big Mac for 20 minutes and now my fries have gone cold!"

[csThor]

Originally Posted by darktatka

b) It is written in English, which as well shows respect to customers (previous messages came across as "look, I'm a paid representative and I'm not even bothered to write proper English") .

You realize you're a bit unfair to BlackSix who is from Russia and was initially tasked with liasing with the russian community only? Who admitted he needed an online translator to understand what we say right in one of his very first posts here? Who is, according to his own words, not working with the programmers but does his own work for the yet to be announced sequel and therefor needs to be given information by luthier so he can post anything?

Hell, Germany has a foreign minister whose english is an abonimation and an embarrassment to my nation! And you complain about not-so-perfect English used for posting news on a flight sim message board?

[darktatka]

Originally Posted by csThor

You realize you're a bit unfair to BlackSix who is from Russia and was initially tasked with liasing with the russian community only? Who admitted he needed an online translator to understand what we say right in one of his very first posts here? Who is, according to his own words, not working with the programmers but does his own work for the yet to be announced sequel and therefor needs to be given information by luthier so he can post anything?

Hell, Germany has a foreign minister whose english is an abonimation and an embarrassment to my nation! And you complain about not-so-perfect English used for posting news on a flight sim message board?

Maybe tinsy winsy bit unfair. Call me a grammar nazi.

It was not meant against B6, but more against how 1C chose to represent itself on forums and I stand behind my point. I'll edit my previous post to convey the message better.

On the other hand, I was quiet when it was horrible, now, when it got MUCH better, I felt obliged to say it is appreciated and how it felt before.