Why still no dive acceleration difference?

[realhammer]

I did a test, 90° dive at 5000m, 30% fuel, default weapon,
accelerate time 300km/h~700km/h:
LA5FN 12.43s
FW190A6 12.95s
P47-D27 12.25s
TEMPEST MK.V 12.23s
almost the same?

[realhammer]

Originally Posted by realhammer

I did a test, 90° dive at 5000m, 30% fuel, default weapon,
accelerate time 300km/h~700km/h:
LA5FN 12.43s
FW190A6 12.95s
P47-D27 12.25s
TEMPEST MK.V 12.23s
almost the same?

it's a shame to P47 and TEMPEST

[mayshine]

Originally Posted by realhammer

it's a shame to P47 and TEMPEST

yes I am agree with that.

It is a shame to all heavy interceptive fighters

think about it :

One of the biggest advantages of these heavy fighters is to dive to get
the speed advantage and then pull into a hammer action verticlely,

However, these heavy fighters are emasculated so far in all versions

[JtD]

Up to level top speed, the better climbing plane accelerates better. Looking at the planes given, based on level speed and climb rate, the order should be Tempest, P-47, La-5FN and Fw 190A-6 and the differences small. All true.

If you want bigger differences, don't dive vertically, use a shallow dive, and try higher speeds. Take a Fw 190A-9 and a Spitfire IX 25lb, start at 550 km/h at 1.5km altitude and dive them to a place 15 km away. Check their speeds.

[FC99]

In TAIC test between the Zero and P-47 when they started the dive from 10000ft at 220MPH IAS and dived until Zero reached maximum allowed speed (325MPH IAS). It took 30 seconds for that and the P-47 had 100 yards advantage over Zero.

Disapointing, isn't it?

[Luno13]

100 meters is close enough to get shot down.

I guess those planes are only good divers if they're fast to begin with. You should never be slow in a P-47. If you're at the same speed as a Zero, you've already lost.

[BadAim]

These aircraft are not all that much different. They are similar in size weight power and performance, it only makes sense that they perform similarly, besides a vertical dive will be measuring the effects of gravity much more than any other factor.

As for relative performance in a fight, how the pilot uses the strong points of his aircraft against the weak points of his opponent is much more important than the actual performance. I get my butt kicked by guys in inferior aircraft all the time because they are better pilots.

[mayshine]

Originally Posted by FC99

In TAIC test between the Zero and P-47 when they started the dive from 10000ft at 220MPH IAS and dived until Zero reached maximum allowed speed (325MPH IAS). It took 30 seconds for that and the P-47 had 100 yards advantage over Zero.

Disapointing, isn't it?

yes, should have been more pronounced

[FC99]

Originally Posted by mayshine

yes, should have been more pronounced

TAIC is "Technical Air Intelligence Center".It was established Washington, D.C. (Anacostia) in 1944, as a joint Army-Navy organization with British participation. To this center was assigned the responsibility of collection, evaluation, and dissemination of all technical intelligence on the Japanese Air Forces.

That's why they tested P-47 and Zero (lot of other planes as well) and 100 yards(~100m ) was the difference between real planes in test. If you think that difference should be bigger than maybe you have to adjust your expectations to match the reality.

[SaQSoN]

Originally Posted by mayshine

yes, should have been more pronounced

We all here agree, that real life rarely meets our expectations. Particularly, when someone thinks, he is wa-a-ay much better pilot, then he actually is.