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Old 04-25-2012, 03:35 PM
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I think you are incorrect
Well i'm certainly not from tests myself and DD_squawk did with respect to J2M's and P47's, we noticed one plane pulling away from the other, way way before the Vne of either plane.

Unless you have the 2 planes side by side, you won't and can't see it, have you tried this with someone else?
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Old 04-25-2012, 03:52 PM
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Well

I have suffered a lot in dogfight server in which I was caught up by La with same E stage
under 3000m.

That's why i start to reseach this issue~~~
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Old 04-25-2012, 05:06 PM
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dear D team member / admin

please see the fomular

set:
accelerate rate= a
starting speed=v0
end speed=vt
distance=x

The accelerate=a=(vt^2-v0^2)/(2x)
=(720km/h^2-260km/h^2)/(2*2000m)
=8.7m/s
=almost just G itself

this is the dive accclerate rate for everything in IL2,

for every bomber and piston fighter,

for both feather and rock in Il2 if any.

so simple and unrealistic

is this all we got in IL2 even in the future?
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Old 04-25-2012, 07:38 PM
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I did a test, 90° dive at 5000m, 30% fuel, default weapon,
accelerate time 300km/h~700km/h:
LA5FN 12.43s
FW190A6 12.95s
P47-D27 12.25s
TEMPEST MK.V 12.23s
almost the same?
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Old 04-25-2012, 07:45 PM
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I did a test, 90° dive at 5000m, 30% fuel, default weapon,
accelerate time 300km/h~700km/h:
LA5FN 12.43s
FW190A6 12.95s
P47-D27 12.25s
TEMPEST MK.V 12.23s
almost the same?
it's a shame to P47 and TEMPEST
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Old 04-25-2012, 08:05 PM
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it's a shame to P47 and TEMPEST
yes I am agree with that.

It is a shame to all heavy interceptive fighters

think about it :

One of the biggest advantages of these heavy fighters is to dive to get
the speed advantage and then pull into a hammer action verticlely,

However, these heavy fighters are emasculated so far in all versions
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Old 04-25-2012, 08:24 PM
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Up to level top speed, the better climbing plane accelerates better. Looking at the planes given, based on level speed and climb rate, the order should be Tempest, P-47, La-5FN and Fw 190A-6 and the differences small. All true.

If you want bigger differences, don't dive vertically, use a shallow dive, and try higher speeds. Take a Fw 190A-9 and a Spitfire IX 25lb, start at 550 km/h at 1.5km altitude and dive them to a place 15 km away. Check their speeds.
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Old 04-25-2012, 11:06 PM
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In TAIC test between the Zero and P-47 when they started the dive from 10000ft at 220MPH IAS and dived until Zero reached maximum allowed speed (325MPH IAS). It took 30 seconds for that and the P-47 had 100 yards advantage over Zero.

Disapointing, isn't it?
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