Spitfire : CloD vs A2A

[ATAG_Snapper]

Originally Posted by ATAG_Doc

How much does all the bells and whistles cost?

Doc, it can cost a freaking TON -- which Dutch warned me about. First you have to have Microsoft Simulator FSX: $40.98 Amazon.ca

The basic A2A Wings of Power 3 Spitfire: $29.99
A2A Accusim bundled in: +$19.99

Then there's Real Extreme Environment $ more
Then there's Ground Environment X $ more
Oh, add in some NASA-approved Canadian scenery: $ more
Oh, better get some Canadian Ultimate Traffic X $ more
Hmmm, how about that X-Rated Spitgirl? $$$$$ more
Prefer blonde (natural) add-on to that? $ more
And a friend? $$$ more

You get the picture...

[ATAG_Doc]

Originally Posted by ATAG_Snapper

Doc, it can cost a freaking TON -- which Dutch warned me about. First you have to have Microsoft Simulator FSX: $40.98 Amazon.ca

The basic A2A Wings of Power 3 Spitfire: $29.99
A2A Accusim bundled in: +$19.99

Then there's Real Extreme Environment $ more
Then there's Ground Environment X $ more
Oh, add in some NASA-approved Canadian scenery: $ more
Oh, better get some Canadian Ultimate Traffic X $ more
Hmmm, how about that X-Rated Spitgirl? $$$$$ more
Prefer blonde (natural) add-on to that? $ more
And a friend? $$$ more

You get the picture...

Coop? Su-26? For the price you should get all that and more right?

[fruitbat]

wonder if it has 100 octane fuel......

[danjama]

As a recent buyer of the A2A Spitfire and Warhawk, I can confirm that they are extremely fun and interesting to fly - and I mean that with all sincerity. If you have any interest in these warbirds, (im guessing we all do here) you have to give them a go.

That said, it's quite a lot of money to outlay. But if you already have FSX, just buy the a2a/accusim product you want, install the freeware airports that most interest you, and you're good to go.

p.s. anybody know why i keep setting my P-40 engine on fire?

[ATAG_Snapper]

Originally Posted by fruitbat

wonder if it has 100 octane fuel......

Fair question, Fruitbat. You can choose: 87 or 100 octane.

[ATAG_Doc]

That's a lot of cheddar for a Spitfire simulator that doesn't even have a single bullet.

[Charly_Owl]

I decided to try A2A out, buying Prepar3d (Lockheed Martin's FSX since they bought Microsoft their license) instead of FSX, and to try the Spitfire out at the same time.

And wow... that 30 minutes-flight I did with it flying in the Alps... that was an amazing experience! Flying this plane was just pure childish fun. I might have paid a bit for it, but I believe it's definitely worth it if you enjoy flying just for fun.

[Codex]

Well I've bought Accusim P-47 when it came out and CLassic Hangers Fw-190A series. For me they're are fun to fly, they're very well modelled, and they make me "feel" like a real pilot having to monitor all the systems.

I just wish someone would produce a flight sim Accusims level of fidelity and CloDs combat. Not too much to ask is it?

Classic Hanger FW-190 ...

cockpit familiarization

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwXBlmJLtB8

engine startup and taxying

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GfbU5DtUPb4

fuel management

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDM37W7K8rA

landing

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ga6e9NfsZ0

[ATAG_Snapper]

Originally Posted by ATAG_Doc

Coop? Su-26? For the price you should get all that and more right?

Absolutely! But you don't.

I think the point you're making, quite effectively, is that we're already getting a huge bang-for-the-lousy-50-bucks with Cliffs of Dover, even without a coop GUI or Su26. If so, I couldn't agree more.

I like A2A strictly for the educational value. I've been a Spitfire freak since I first read Al Deere's "Nine Lives" back in '63 -- so the A2A study sim is heaven-sent for me personally. I just wish I could shoot stuff.

Which brings me to Cliffs of Dover. What the devs have accomplished is absolutely amazing, even in its incomplete and boogered form. It was an easy transition from the CoD cockpit to the much-greater detailed A2A Spit's cockpit. Flying CEM in CoD, especially in online combat, gives you a good background in the relationships between throttle settings (boost) and propellor pitch (rpms), plus all the temps, pressures, trim settings, etc etc etc. It's easier to break a Merlin in A2A's version, but the CoD's CEM workload under combat pressure prepares anyone for the more finicky A2A Merlins. The A2A documentation (along with the Accusim docs) are excellent bar none.

The only switch, lever, or control that doesn't work AFAIK in the A2A Spitfire is the seat height adjustment (oops - not counting the gun button.....minor detail LOL).

But if you're NOT a Spitfire freak of some description, the CoD Spitfire is plenty fine in many respects. In fact, it's plenty fine if you ARE a Spitfire freak. And it shoots stuff!

[ATAG_Dutch]

Originally Posted by ATAG_Snapper

Doc, it can cost a freaking TON -- which Dutch warned me about.

But I think I know that now you're there, you just won't stop!!

'Think I'll try this photo scenery!'

'Think I'll buy a Lancaster!'

'Think I'll buy my local airport in photo real gfx!'

'Think I'll sell the wife!'

Then your force feedback stops working for no apparent reason and you say 'bollox microsoft! you can kiss my bottom, I'm not playing anymore!'

Then you go back to moaning about the Spit's FM in Cliffs of Dover................