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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 04-24-2012, 06:29 PM
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Speed graphs for Spitfire and Hurricane

I don't have any other graphs or information now.
Hmm these graphs surly not show 100 Octan fuel performanace implement - emergency +12 lbs boost - so i suspected it is not implement into game - really not good.

109 E in patch would have much more close to reality and best results performance - which is good of course.

But looking at British main fighters performacne i really see not good things.

Hurricane MK1 is too slow even for + 6 1/2 lbs performacne:








Spitfire MK1 also not quite correct even for +6 1/2 lbs performance. At lower alts too slow and have to high alt FTH.





There is a enough info about Hurricane and SPitfire MK1 performance i really wonder why 1C cant do it like it should be ????

I know that it could be possible to make it better even in old IL2 engine????

Hey really You can do it better????? Devs there is really enough info to do it correct. Really.

Im dissapointment for these

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Old 04-24-2012, 06:56 PM
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Kwiatek, the charts you present are accurate, I'm sure, and are on public record. After today's admissions, I honestly do not believe accuracy is desired nor sought after in this game. It's a shame, but I believe that to be the reality.
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Old 04-24-2012, 07:06 PM
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Calm down ... did anyone compare the above charts with B6 ones? I don't think so. And btw, not a word about the fact that today the Hurricane is grossly overmodeled and requires a serious correction?
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Old 04-24-2012, 07:13 PM
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Calm down ... did anyone compare the above charts with B6 ones? I don't think so. And btw, not a word about the fact that today the Hurricane is grossly overmodeled and requires a serious correction?
umm yes they did, thats the problem, and no one here is denying the hurri is over modelled at the moment.
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Old 04-24-2012, 07:28 PM
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umm yes they did, thats the problem, and no one here is denying the hurri is over modelled at the moment.

Then those who did the comparison, could possibly put their data on a graph, as B6 did? I did some random checks of the Hurricane I curves and I found interesting things. BTW what's the source of the Kwiatek speed/alt charts for Hurricanes ? And why they tell different figures?

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Old 04-24-2012, 07:35 PM
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I don't understand something.

Weeks and weeks ago, everyone was saying that the only aircraft that had historically accurate performance was the Spitfire IIa and that the other aircraft needed to have their performance increased as well.

Now, suddenly, because 1C has decided to reduce its performance, people are popping up saying that the Spitfire IIa was over modelled. And now that the Hurricane is being reduced, people are claiming that it has always been overmodelled as well.

What new historical research and findings appeared between those posts and these posts that has altered everyones views?
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Old 04-24-2012, 07:38 PM
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Meh.

See you on the outskirts of Moscow, comrades.



At least the G.50 might be fun to fly after the patch.
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Old 04-24-2012, 07:40 PM
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I don't understand something.

Weeks and weeks ago, everyone was saying that the only aircraft that had historically accurate performance was the Spitfire IIa and that the other aircraft needed to have their performance increased as well.

Now, suddenly, because 1C has decided to reduce its performance, people are popping up saying that the Spitfire IIa was over modelled. And now that the Hurricane is being reduced, people are claiming that it has always been overmodelled as well.

What new historical research and findings appeared between those posts and these posts that has altered everyones views?
The fact that the Hurricane was overmodelled was discussed before, you can find many posts about that, e.g.:

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=27311

As you see I "popped out" 6 months ago.

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Weeks and weeks ago, everyone was saying that the only aircraft that had historically accurate performance was the Spitfire IIa and that the other aircraft needed to have their performance increased as well.

Now, suddenly, because 1C has decided to reduce its performance, people are popping up saying that the Spitfire IIa was over modelled. And now that the Hurricane is being reduced, people are claiming that it has always been overmodelled as well.

What new historical research and findings appeared between those posts and these posts that has altered everyones views?
None whatsoever.

I also found that the in-game Rotol Hurri performed almost identically to the data provided here;

http://www.wwiiaircraftperformance.o...ane/l2026.html
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Old 04-24-2012, 07:35 PM
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I personally think that the speed advantage of the spit 1 at high alt is great! I am looking forward to taking on the 109s now in my spitty.
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