4-12 wish list (Merged)

[=FPS=Salsero]

Point 1 stands, just because there IS some difference between flat patch, where there is some space for plane "birthplaces", and not level terrain.

Point 2 stands, because Il-10 could carry 2*FAB-250,

Have no time to fetch other examples, sorry.

Point 5: These bombs are light (40 kg in dimensions of 100 kg) and could be carried by all planes that carry FAB-100. Some patches ago incendiaries (like АЖ were the only weapon effective for the soft targets covered by the nets)

[nic727]

Can you delete this topic and make another one with all idea from the begining or have to do that myself?

[SgtPappy]

I don't know if people have been asking already but the F4U-4 would be a mighty addition to the plane set...

I mean this thing is beastly! 374 - 383 mph on deck and a max speed of 443-461 mph. Here's the proof report: http://www.wwiiaircraftperformance.org/f4u/f4u-4.pdf

[IceFire]

Originally Posted by SgtPappy

I don't know if people have been asking already but the F4U-4 would be a mighty addition to the plane set...

I mean this thing is beastly! 374 - 383 mph on deck and a max speed of 443-461 mph. Here's the proof report: http://www.wwiiaircraftperformance.org/f4u/f4u-4.pdf

Vought was later bought and consumed into the mighty Northrup Grumman empire of which their aircraft are off limits due to legal issues. Stupid but nonetheless there will not be a F4U-4 added to the official version of the game... sadly I do agree.

What a beast of a fighter!

[Luno13]

Originally Posted by =FPS=Salsero

Point 1 stands, just because there IS some difference between flat patch, where there is some space for plane "birthplaces", and not level terrain.

Point 2 stands, because Il-10 could carry 2*FAB-250,

Point 5: These bombs are light (40 kg in dimensions of 100 kg) and could be carried by all planes that carry FAB-100. Some patches ago incendiaries (like АЖ were the only weapon effective for the soft targets covered by the nets)

2: Sure, it could carry 2 Fab-250s, but did it do it in combat? The Sm.79 could carry 2 torps, but never did except for ferry missions....

Anyway, I'll try to look it up. I've got nothing wrong with extra ordinance for any plane

It would be great to see some proper incendiaries too.

[Mysticpuma]

I would love to see the P-47 cockpit remodelled. Seeing that we have had this beauty in the game 'forever', it is really sad to see that the Cockpit is nowhere near what it could ever be.

I know it's not right to point towards the modding community, but they did (with repaints (I think) do an incredible job of updating/improving the quality and experience of being inside the '47 and I really hope that TD can do something to make the P-47 at-least near to what it should be like, rather than the Polygon embarrassment that it is currently?

Secondly, can we have the proper loadout for the P-47 which would allow 2x1000lb bomb under each wing and 1x 500lb under the fuselage? There are many more tweaks that could be applied, see here for example (and I did read the forum rules before posting this link):

http://www.sas1946.com/main/index.ph...c,19365.0.html

The P-47 was a true workhorse of WW2 but sadly in it's current IL2 state, it's more of a an old nag

Cheers, MP

[SPITACE]

+1! your are right about the P-47 cockpit and the 109 f,g, need to be done in one of the updates but i can not see it being done. i allways look at the update read me with hope.

[Robo.]

Originally Posted by Mysticpuma

I would love to see the P-47 cockpit remodelled. Seeing that we have had this beauty in the game 'forever', it is really sad to see that the Cockpit is nowhere near what it could ever be.

It is being worked on.

[=FPS=Salsero]

Originally Posted by Luno13

2: Sure, it could carry 2 Fab-250s, but did it do it in combat? The Sm.79 could carry 2 torps, but never did except for ferry missions....

There are quotes in Russian claiming it did so, during the Korean campaign.
http://www.airwar.ru/enc/aww2/il10.html

Originally Posted by Luno13

It would be great to see some proper incendiaries too.

BTW There was such thing like ZAB-250-200: metal casing (same as FAB-250), 48 kg of kerosene and 8 kg of rags, with 4 kgs of TNT explosive charge, producing a flame cloud with the diameter from 15 to 20m, using the APUV family fuze. Bomb full weight was 200 kg.

[Luno13]

Originally Posted by =FPS=Salsero

There are quotes in Russian claiming it did so, during the Korean campaign.
http://www.airwar.ru/enc/aww2/il10.html

BTW There was such thing like ZAB-250-200: metal casing (same as FAB-250), 48 kg of kerosene and 8 kg of rags, with 4 kgs of TNT explosive charge, producing a flame cloud with the diameter from 15 to 20m, using the APUV family fuze. Bomb full weight was 200 kg.

The Korean war Il-10 was a different "beast". Larger area wings with square-cut tips, ventral tail fin, longer fuselage, and 4x NR-23 cannons (Il-10M).

B-33s, produced under license in Czechoslovakia, could carry 400L fuel tanks too.

From the url:

Composition of experimental weapons of IL-10 AM-42 included: two guns VYa-23 (300 rounds), two machine guns ShKAS (1500 rounds), a mobile defensive unit VU-7 with a gun W-20 DB-15 to IEC 150 ammunition rounds, four RO-82, 10 aviagranat AH-2 and the normal bomb load of 400 kg (600 kg into overdrive).

In the attack aircraft provided for the installation of 4 beams (two on each console) for the three types of rockets: RS-132, ROFS-132 and RS-82. In addition, it was possible suspension himpriborov UHAP-250 (for external bomb racks). Rockets and himpribory suspended due to bomb load:

Fragmentation and incendiary bombs caliber from 1 to 25 kg, inclusive, and AF-2 ampoules were loaded into two bomb bay (instead of 4 on the IL-2) formed by the walls of the center section ribs on both sides of the aircraft hull, as in the bunker.

Unlike conventional fission bombs PTAB-2 ,5-1, 5, were placed in the bomb bay warhead ago. This was done to ensure that as long as possible to keep the safety device on a bomb on a roll it out of the compartment. The bombs were placed along the bay in three rows. Between the rows of attached septum.

In the bomb bay and L-10 during normal bomb load was placed:

144 PTAB-2 ,5-1, 5 - 230 kg,
136 SA-2, 5, SC (Steel cast iron) - 400 kg,
82 SA-2 ,5-2 (from 45-mm projectile) - 400 kg,
56 AO-8M4 (short) - 400 kg,
40 bombs, such as AO-10 SC (Steel cast iron) - 392 kg.

As the plane accelerated version could take 2 FAB-250 - 500 kg,
176 SA-2, 5s.ch. -520 Kg,
200 SA-2 ,5-2 (from 45-mm projectile) - 440 kg,
80 AO-8M4 (short) - 570 kg,
80 bombs, such as AO-10-6, 5 bis - 552 kg.

The maximum bomb load of 600 kg was achieved by suspension of 2 HAB-250-200 and 2-HUB-100.

Chemical vials AF-2 (125 mm, weight 1.5 kg) attack could take 166 units in both compartments, which provided the load of 250 kg.

At the locks DZ-42, located on a center-ribs, hung bombs caliber from 100 to 250 kg.

They also hung Spetspribor smoke screens. Bombs from 50 to 250 kg lifted from an airplane wing with a winch BL-4.

Suspension 4-RS-82 increased the weight of the payload of 28 kg, and 4 RS-132 - 92 kg.

So again, the 2x FAB-250s is an overload condition. I can't find any info to state whether it was carried into battle in 1944 and '45. Korean war, sure. It's interesting to note the wide variety of ordinance carried, so it would be nice to see these implemented.