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Old 04-20-2012, 11:59 AM
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this is a visulaization of 3d in 2d:



now if i can have an an augmented 3d perception i could visulaize 4d in 3d

that was a poetic coment on the fact that being love what moves me i feel kind of unstopable and thats dangerous for the powers to be since i want to discover a simple way anybody could do to go 4th dimensional, an utter evolution of the status quo in whcih everybody can scan evrybodys minds

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i ment revolution you see thats why i dont correct, see my plan is to become that crazy scientific who disocvers promicine in the 4400 show

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wacko mode on

you see i really know whats this all about humanity is on the next stage of evolution

but it can randomly follow to paths

the transhuman borg who can live millions of years and passes his finals days in a virtual reality

or a natural humanity who lives just 100 naturally in a next natural stage of evolution

the problem is that if you left this for democracy which do you think would turn out?

(wacko mode off)

this is a random wild speculation but i think there are two ways to achieve an enhanced 3d perception, naturally or artificially
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Old 04-20-2012, 12:18 PM
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Yes thats just a 2D picture representing a cube (a 3D object) just like a photograph is a 2D image of a 3D world, there is no real depth, simply our natural sympathy for a 3D enviroment lets us imagine the 3D.

Heres a 2D representation of 4D, why aren't you staring at these pictures instead?

http://www.math.harvard.edu/archive/...ube/4dcube.gif

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that was a poetic coment on the fact that being love what moves me i feel kind of unstopable and thats dangerous for the powers to be since i want to discover a simple way anybody could do to go 4th dimensional, an utter evolution of the status quo in whcih everybody can scan evrybodys minds

Everybody loves something, it doesn't make you unique, it seems to me there are some already brilliant minds working on understanding the 4th dimension with much more sophisticated means rather than going cross eyed trying to understand 3D and watching cartoons and cancelled sci-fi programmes, why would we want a world where everybody can scan each others minds?

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isn't that a good example of why you 'should' correct? saying something you don't mean.
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Old 04-20-2012, 12:29 PM
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this is a random wild speculation but i think there are two ways to achieve an enhanced 3d perception, naturally or artificially
No such thing as enhanced 3D perception in the 'real' world, all you are playing with is stereoscopy which is simply making 3D illusions out of 2D images, meanwhile the rest of us in the real world are more than aware of 3D perception with real depth, I can stand at a cliff edge and see its a long way down.....better not jump.
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Old 04-20-2012, 12:42 PM
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here 4d represented in flat if you know how to look so what could you do if you had AUGMENTED 3D perception

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Old 04-20-2012, 12:48 PM
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There is nothing augmentative about being cross eyed, that picture is a 2D image of 2 pencils on a piece of stained paper, the image I linked to is genuinely a representation of current perceptions of 4D.
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Old 04-20-2012, 01:15 PM
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I applaud your efforts Raaaid.

However, since i'm only interested in your success, I advise you to only come back here when you have succeeded and stop wasting valuable time here, whilst you could be using that very same time to achieve your goal.
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Old 04-20-2012, 02:42 PM
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now if i can have an an augmented 3d perception i could visualize 4d in 3d
I prefer touching double Ds over visualizing 4D in 3D.. Your mileage may and clearly does vary
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I prefer touching double Ds over visualizing 4D in 3D.. Your mileage may and clearly does vary
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Old 04-20-2012, 03:25 PM
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...the next stage of evolution...

...or a natural humanity who lives just 100 naturally in a next natural stage of evolution...
Evolution?
The evolution of man is as follows:

-We get taller, due to our nutritious food
-our skulls will be narrower, due to the above
-our eyesight will most likely get worse, as this part doenst change the same speed our bones do.
-we lose teeth and hair, as we have no need for them to survive

Now, what the heck makes you think our eyes evolve, although we dont need eagle eyes for survival?
You're almost blind, yet live and post here happily on a daily basis.
Did it ever occur to you, that you might be the living proof something like de-volution exists as well?
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Evolution?
The evolution of man is as follows:

-We get taller, due to our nutritious food
-our skulls will be narrower, due to the above
-our eyesight will most likely get worse, as this part doenst change the same speed our bones do.
-we lose teeth and hair, as we have no need for them to survive

Now, what the heck makes you think our eyes evolve, although we dont need eagle eyes for survival?
You're almost blind, yet live and post here happily on a daily basis.
Did it ever occur to you, that you might be the living proof something like de-volution exists as well?
There is no "de-evolution", just a constant process of adapting to the requirements for you to reproduce effectivly. If eye sight gets worse, then that simply is a marker for lesser requirements in eyesight in our modern world. On the other hand I expect some adjustments for sitting in offices 8 hours a day in the long run, instead of running through the woods catching prey.

Btw, if men will lose its hair has still to be seen. Recent studies suggest men has still hair for the very banal reason that it makes life harder for bugs, mosquitos and other leeches having a go at you. Else we already would have lost it.
I dare say even the most rich and sophisticated/intelligent people on this planet will be thankful to keep it for bit longer unless they want to eridacte all insect life.
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