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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 04-17-2012, 02:36 PM
Stublerone Stublerone is offline
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I have to say that I am using trackIR and priority is not this zoom for me ( i have als different ways to make it work with t.a.r.g.e.t. or foxy on my tm warthog).

But main fact is that the zoom of the"free view" is not coordinated with switching into gunsight mode (with shift+f1 right???). Means, that i always fully zoom in the "REVI" and also get the limted viewing angle in this mode. So, if my enemy makes turns and rolls, I am stuck in this limited view. So I have to press "shift+f1" again to release this view. At this point at the latest, I get back into the old zoom from before and it makes weird movement, as you are already looking in a harder angle than allowed before in the gunsight view. I lose my enemy everytime, when I do this or even when i forget to release the view.

Am I playing with the wrong keys? I just heard others, who agreed with me in that point. So I am currently thinking, that it is like I described. Everybody feel free to help out, comment or even to vote in the tracker, if i am right!
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Old 04-17-2012, 02:43 PM
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I wanted to get used to 6dof now, but as I already did in 1946: Just switched it back to x and y and performed akdditional important movement with axes or a hat.

Did you also encounter, that the amera is not shaking so much in the good old mode with just 2 or 3 axes. I just heard something about that, too.

But nevertheless the should only go back to old style switching between the modes without limitations in angle anf with zoom factors not affected, when switching modes.

Looking forward to your answers.
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Old 04-17-2012, 02:46 PM
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Stublerone I don't know why you are switching to sight view when you have track IR?

Why don't you just lean in and look through the sight. Its the most natural thing in the world compared to hitting shift F1.

I just saw you disabled z axis of track IR and your hitting shift f1.... I can't imagine how you find it easier to hit shift f1 instead of just moving your head.
I hope your not in a wheel chair or have medical reasons why you can't move.

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Old 04-17-2012, 03:19 PM
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I have all axes enabled and that is okay so far. Leaning in is always a little too time consuming and especially in a bf109 with a revi out of the middle you have to look back to centre and lean totally accurate. If you are not fully centered in front of the revi, you will miss several shots. It simply takes too long. For me personally, the Shift+f1 should do nothing else than get a new center position for trackir in front of the revi. And it should not change its zoom.

In 1946 I flew nearly all the time in gunsightmode as soon as I had enemies nearby.

I mean, leanind around and make moves to accuratly fire on enemies is more difficult, than have a new center position and stick with the fact, that u are a little bit out of the middle for looking around.
These are two very similar setups on the first look, but it makes a very big difference. I personally cannot shoot down a plane with just one burst in a hard turning fight. In the old il2, this was very handy. U must also think, that trackir is a good tool ( i cannot live without it), but it is also very far from reality.

So this should be easier. I do not want to waste 3 burst, because my leaning is not accurate. In reality, I could manage it way better (not speaking about high g as influence). It is a small thing to change and it will do a lot for all of us, believe me!
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Old 04-17-2012, 03:27 PM
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I have all axes enabled and that is okay so far. Leaning in is always a little too time consuming and especially in a bf109 with a revi out of the middle you have to look back to centre and lean totally accurate. If you are not fully centered in front of the revi, you will miss several shots. It simply takes too long. For me personally, the Shift+f1 should do nothing else than get a new center position for trackir in front of the revi. And it should not change its zoom.

In 1946 I flew nearly all the time in gunsightmode as soon as I had enemies nearby.

I mean, leanind around and make moves to accuratly fire on enemies is more difficult, than have a new center position and stick with the fact, that u are a little bit out of the middle for looking around.
These are two very similar setups on the first look, but it makes a very big difference. I personally cannot shoot down a plane with just one burst in a hard turning fight. In the old il2, this was very handy. U must also think, that trackir is a good tool ( i cannot live without it), but it is also very far from reality.

So this should be easier. I do not want to waste 3 burst, because my leaning is not accurate. In reality, I could manage it way better (not speaking about high g as influence). It is a small thing to change and it will do a lot for all of us, believe me!
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Old 04-17-2012, 03:54 PM
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I have all axes enabled and that is okay so far. Leaning in is always a little too time consuming and especially in a bf109 with a revi out of the middle you have to look back to centre and lean totally accurate. If you are not fully centered in front of the revi, you will miss several shots. It simply takes too long. For me personally, the Shift+f1 should do nothing else than get a new center position for trackir in front of the revi. And it should not change its zoom.

In 1946 I flew nearly all the time in gunsightmode as soon as I had enemies nearby.

I mean, leanind around and make moves to accuratly fire on enemies is more difficult, than have a new center position and stick with the fact, that u are a little bit out of the middle for looking around.
These are two very similar setups on the first look, but it makes a very big difference. I personally cannot shoot down a plane with just one burst in a hard turning fight. In the old il2, this was very handy. U must also think, that trackir is a good tool ( i cannot live without it), but it is also very far from reality.

So this should be easier. I do not want to waste 3 burst, because my leaning is not accurate. In reality, I could manage it way better (not speaking about high g as influence). It is a small thing to change and it will do a lot for all of us, believe me!
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Old 04-17-2012, 04:43 PM
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I have to say that I am using trackIR and priority is not this zoom for me ( i have als different ways to make it work with t.a.r.g.e.t. or foxy on my tm warthog).

But main fact is that the zoom of the"free view" is not coordinated with switching into gunsight mode (with shift+f1 right???). Means, that i always fully zoom in the "REVI" and also get the limted viewing angle in this mode. So, if my enemy makes turns and rolls, I am stuck in this limited view. So I have to press "shift+f1" again to release this view. At this point at the latest, I get back into the old zoom from before and it makes weird movement, as you are already looking in a harder angle than allowed before in the gunsight view. I lose my enemy everytime, when I do this or even when i forget to release the view.

Am I playing with the wrong keys? I just heard others, who agreed with me in that point. So I am currently thinking, that it is like I described. Everybody feel free to help out, comment or even to vote in the tracker, if i am right!
This was up for discussion shortly after the release. Apparently the restricted view when using gunsight view is, a odd way imo, to simulate the fact the 109 pilots have to lean to the right and lean forward.

Dont ask me why or how they came up with this cuz i havent got a clue.


And i agree btw, its extremly anoying and abetrary.
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