"We like the offline AI. It's realistically dumb."

[addman]

Originally Posted by smink1701

The thing that I wonder is why they didn't do a better job of testing the QM's and SM's. It seems like they would have clearly seen the absurd AI flight characteristics and determined that they need to turn down the Advanced Flying slider. A very simple way to fix an immersion killer.

My theory, the QMB (quick mission builder) is heavily intertwined with the GUI (graphical user interface) of CloD just as it was in il-2 46. Problem is, the GUI of CloD was a rush job, first pics of the GUI was shortly before release plus luthier is now saying they will totally re-do the GUI for BoM. The GUI in CloD is basically a placeholder and offers very little flexibility in handling different components of the game. I hope and I actually feel quite confident that the new GUI for BoM will be much better now that they have a set schedule they are working on and don't have to rush anything out, until then I guess we have to make our own quick missions I guess.

[smink1701]

OK…a few questions from the FMB cement head…

-In FMB I load a mission I see…Bomber Intercept, Free Hunt, London Attack, etc. All from Single Missions. I don’t see anything from QM’s like Dogfight Even, Dogfight Lower Level, Advantage Axis, etc. Where are the SM’s and can you edit and save?

-Also, when you go into FMB and see File, Edit View, what is the thread to the Aircraft Flight so you can access Properties and the AI sliders?

-If you save a SM or QM, how do you delete? I tried to right click but no dice.

-Finally, is there a way to toggle icons like in IL-2?

My thanks to anyone willing to weigh in.

[CWMV]

I just want the AI to follow you on takeoff. Thats all.

[Ataros]

QMB missions are stored here
Documents\1C SoftClub\il-2 sturmovik cliffs of dover\mission\quick

Copy them into any folder under
Documents\1C SoftClub\il-2 sturmovik cliffs of dover\missions\

You can delete files from the folder as any other files in Windows.

To access airgraoup properties right-click airgroup and select properties.

For icons please search for mp_dotrange command on the forums. You can enter it into the rcu file in IL-2 folder. Sorry, do not remember the syntax now. Alternatively you can make aliases to different icon settings and store them in the rcu file if you want to change settings in flight. Search for "rcu alias" for details please.

[SlipBall]

Originally Posted by CWMV

I just want the AI to follow you on takeoff. Thats all.

You will need to adjust their properties as seen in this thread, such things as discipline, eyesight etc

[SlipBall]

Originally Posted by smink1701

OK…a few questions from the FMB cement head…

-In FMB I load a mission I see…Bomber Intercept, Free Hunt, London Attack, etc. All from Single Missions. I don’t see anything from QM’s like Dogfight Even, Dogfight Lower Level, Advantage Axis, etc. Where are the SM’s and can you edit and save?

-Also, when you go into FMB and see File, Edit View, what is the thread to the Aircraft Flight so you can access Properties and the AI sliders?

-If you save a SM or QM, how do you delete? I tried to right click but no dice.

-Finally, is there a way to toggle icons like in IL-2?

My thanks to anyone willing to weigh in.

Re-read my instruction post for the object viewer...with the object viewer open, left click the aircraft on the map that you want to change the AI, when you are done, right click and select "un- select"

[5./JG27.Farber]

Originally Posted by smink1701

OK…a few questions from the FMB cement head…

-In FMB I load a mission I see…Bomber Intercept, Free Hunt, London Attack, etc. All from Single Missions. I don’t see anything from QM’s like Dogfight Even, Dogfight Lower Level, Advantage Axis, etc. Where are the SM’s and can you edit and save?

Appears the QM's are under mission, not missions but are hidden files. I could not get them to show up, any way you can build your own.

Originally Posted by smink1701

-Also, when you go into FMB and see File, Edit View, what is the thread to the Aircraft Flight so you can access Properties and the AI sliders?

Goto View, object viewer. This is for all objects. Just remember there is a difference between objects which are "alive" and that move and "Statics" that do not move. "alive" objects need at least two waypoints or you cant save your mission!

Originally Posted by smink1701

-If you save a SM or QM, how do you delete? I tried to right click but no dice.

If you want to delete a mission, do so like a normal file. Docs, 1csoftclub, missions... I always creat folders for each mission so its less cluttered. However in FMB you cant see a folder in a folder in missions.

Originally Posted by smink1701

-Finally, is there a way to toggle icons like in IL-2?

Toggle icons on/off? Good question. I dont know, try the old key for it else look in the controls.

Originally Posted by smink1701

My thanks to anyone willing to weigh in.

NP!


Some other things which may help you. -

You can either use Ctl + left click or click where you want it and press insert to place an object.

Hold a and left click and drag to define the battle area, set the last value to 10000 for nice big useable grid squares.

click on an object or on the map and press enter on the NUM pad to go into 3D view.

Whilst in 3D view with an object selected press the keys on the NUM pad to rotate.

You need to give bombers bombs and the appropriate fuses.

Save your work regulary, the FMB sometimes crashes but not as bad as the game.

You can test your work by adding an aircraft and and clicking the player box in its preoperties, select file, play mission. You can use the [ and ] keys for time compression.

Wether and clouds etc are under Mission Parameters, in edit I beleive.

You might want to set armies, under edit I think.


Hope this helps.

[SlipBall]

Originally Posted by 5./JG27.Farber

Appears the QM's are under mission, not missions but are hidden files. I could not get them to show up, any way you can build your own.




Goto View, object viewer. This is for all objects. Just remember there is a difference between objects which are "alive" and that move and "Statics" that do not move. "alive" objects need at least two waypoints or you cant save your mission!




If you want to delete a mission, do so like a normal file. Docs, 1csoftclub, missions... I always creat folders for each mission so its less cluttered. However in FMB you cant see a folder in a folder in missions.



Toggle icons on/off? Good question. I dont know, try the old key for it else look in the controls.



NP!


Some other things which may help you. -

You can either use Ctl + left click or click where you want it and press insert to place an object.

Hold a and left click and drag to define the battle area, set the last value to 10000 for nice big useable grid squares.

click on an object or on the map and press enter on the NUM pad to go into 3D view.

Whilst in 3D view with an object selected press the keys on the NUM pad to rotate.

You need to give bombers bombs and the appropriate fuses.

Save your work regulary, the FMB sometimes crashes but not as bad as the game.

You can test your work by adding an aircraft and and clicking the player box in its preoperties, select file, play mission. You can use the [ and ] keys for time compression.

Wether and clouds etc are under Mission Parameters, in edit I beleive.

You might want to set armies, under edit I think.


Hope this helps.

A work around is possible by choosing "save as" in the quick page generator. Then find it/make a copy to your soft club mission/open in FMB/make AI adjustment/then replace the original with your doctored version.

[bolox]

Originally Posted by 5./JG27.Farber

If you want to delete a mission, do so like a normal file. Docs, 1csoftclub, missions... I always creat folders for each mission so its less cluttered. However in FMB you cant see a folder in a folder in missions.

am i misunderstanding something here? because i can see folders/sub folders in fmb

[Artist]

I just found out that if you create a folder while CloD is running, it will not be shown in FMB. If you quit CloD and restart it, it appears in the FMB...