Friday Update, April 13, 2012

[VO101_Tom]

Originally Posted by Kwiatek

It looks that some have little knwowledge about these days but still they think they know better

We talk about the Hurricanes and Spitfires in BoB, not only the 303 squadron.

But if you have any proof, please share, if the Hurricanes shot down more fighter than Spitfires. I found only this (or similar):

"Both the Supermarine Spitfire and the Hurricane are renowned for their part in defending Britain against the Luftwaffe — generally the Spitfire would intercept the German fighters, leaving Hurricanes to concentrate on the bombers, but despite the undoubted abilities of the "thoroughbred" Spitfire, it was the "workhorse" Hurricane that scored the higher number of RAF victories during this period, accounting for 55 percent of the 2,739 German losses, according to Fighter Command, compared with 42 per cent by Spitfires.[39]"

But there is no exact numbers, how many bomber, how many fighter...

[Frequent_Flyer]

Originally Posted by VO101_Tom

We talk about the Hurricanes and Spitfires in BoB, not only the 303 squadron.

But if you have any proof, please share, if the Hurricanes shot down more fighter than Spitfires. I found only this (or similar):

"Both the Supermarine Spitfire and the Hurricane are renowned for their part in defending Britain against the Luftwaffe — generally the Spitfire would intercept the German fighters, leaving Hurricanes to concentrate on the bombers, but despite the undoubted abilities of the "thoroughbred" Spitfire, it was the "workhorse" Hurricane that scored the higher number of RAF victories during this period, accounting for 55 percent of the 2,739 German losses, according to Fighter Command, compared with 42 per cent by Spitfires.[39]"

But there is no exact numbers, how many bomber, how many fighter...

Also, consider the Bf-110, a fighter , other than having greater range was useless as an escort and easy meat for the Hurri. In addition. the Ju-87 was rendered " obsolete " during BOB, based upon its record vs. the Hurri and Spit.

Keep in mind ,the pathitic range of the 109 required it to return to base well before its escort duties were fullfilled on a great number of occasions. Leaving nothing but the Bombers for both the Spit and Hurri to concentrate on.
Both the Spit and the Hurri may have scored more victories over Bombers rather than fighters.

Thats not a bad thing!

[taildraggernut]

Yet I believe more 109's were lost than any other German aircraft type

[Insuber]

Originally Posted by taildraggernut

Yet I believe more 109's were lost than any other German aircraft type

Irrelevant. They were the most widespread type, so ...

[taildraggernut]

Originally Posted by Insuber

Irrelevant. They were the most widespread type, so ...

Wow....such hostility, I was only answering Frequent flyers hypothesis on how many bombers vs fighters the RAF shot down....what is so irrelevant about it?

[taildraggernut]

These might be interesting links.....

http://www.alternatewars.com/WW2/See..._LW_Losses.htm

http://cz-raf.hyperlink.cz/BoB/stat.html

[ATAG_Dutch]

'in encounters known to be between Hurricanes and 109s, the 109 came out the winner, shooting down 272 Hurricanes for the loss of 153 Bf109s.'

Which means 153 Bf109s were shot down by Hurris, of course.

http://www.historyofwar.org/articles...ne_combat.html

[Kwiatek]

Nobody claim that Hurricane was better fighter then 109. But surly in experience hands Hurrricane could be effective againt 109 too

303 SQN pilots proof it enough.

Also 100 Octan fuel and +12lbs emergency boost made a difference in low level combat alts too.