Friday Update, April 13, 2012

Philip_Ed...actually I completely agree (seriously).

My main jab is not at the dev team (though I think it could have been made more transparent earlier on...) but at the apologists. Now that I've got that out of my system I also think it's quite logical as far as game dev is concerned. Still, it's a shame for what might have been. But clean slate and all that. There are very few dev houses that can handle the albatrossissues and the funding of supporting an old app.

Ben

Hayward said:

>>You don't even see the irony, do you? <<

Yes, but the post outweighs it.

Now, your turn. No, I insist, after you....set high horse to canter, trot....

[David Hayward]

Originally Posted by Falstaff

Hayward said:

>>You don't even see the irony, do you? <<

Yes, but the post outweighs it.

No, it doesn't. It's the same old tripe. They're still fixing the game and you're still complaining.

[bw_wolverine]

Originally Posted by 5./JG27.Farber

That brings us to another factor, we as virtual pilots NEVER DIE. We learn from our mistakes, we all have more than 5 Victories (an ace) and more than 10 (Experte )... We live to fly another day! We have the knowledge of the best tactics that those who did this for real did not. So its not all down to the plane, which in this Sim - should be as historic as possible and the rest is up to us.

This is true but it leads me to another conclusion.

Since we don't die, we all gradually inch towards complete "mastery" of our respective machines. If the 109 is by a margin the better fighter, won't the 109 pilot eventually have complete 'by a margin' advantage over the Hurricane/Spit pilot?

Just an analogy to help the point: I've got a Mazda 3 Sport and I drive it every day. I drive it so much that I think I'm pretty good at pushing it to its absolute limit. Now my buddy gets an Audi r8. While he's brand new at driving it, he spins out in corners or whatever and I pass him. It's an even race...up until he gets skilled with it. No matter how well I drive my Mazda 3 Sport, as long as he doesn't f it up in the r8, he wins. Because we've spent all the hours we need to get mastery with our equipment.

Just sub in a Hurricane and a 109 for the cars.

This isn't a casual game. I doubt we've got too many online pilots who just play a few minutes here and there and will never make their skills improve.

[[URU]AkeR]

Originally Posted by bw_wolverine

This is true but it leads me to another conclusion.

Since we don't die, we all gradually inch towards complete "mastery" of our respective machines. If the 109 is by a margin the better fighter, won't the 109 pilot eventually have complete 'by a margin' advantage over the Hurricane/Spit pilot?

Just an analogy to help the point: I've got a Mazda 3 Sport and I drive it every day. I drive it so much that I think I'm pretty good at pushing it to its absolute limit. Now my buddy gets an Audi r8. While he's brand new at driving it, he spins out in corners or whatever and I pass him. It's an even race...up until he gets skilled with it. No matter how well I drive my Mazda 3 Sport, as long as he doesn't f it up in the r8, he wins. Because we've spent all the hours we need to get mastery with our equipment.

Just sub in a Hurricane and a 109 for the cars.

This isn't a casual game. I doubt we've got too many online pilots who just play a few minutes here and there and will never make their skills improve.

That is true, and that is the way it should if planes have historical performance, i´m sure there are other games that favor balance versus realism but that is not this game. TEAM TACTICS is something very important in those conditions, in IL2-1946 I allways see that when 2 great pilots meet in combat it all comes down to using your brain and not making mistakes.
Planes don´t win battles, pilots do. One of the planes i love the most in il2 1946 is the mc200, and believe me i have downed all kinds of planes with the little plane, from spits to La7´s

[5./JG27.Farber]

Originally Posted by bw_wolverine

This is true but it leads me to another conclusion.

Since we don't die, we all gradually inch towards complete "mastery" of our respective machines. If the 109 is by a margin the better fighter, won't the 109 pilot eventually have complete 'by a margin' advantage over the Hurricane/Spit pilot?

No, because we dont all learn the same, fly for the same time, drop our bad habits etc. Plus there is always luck and circumstance...

[JG52Uther]

So the G50 could become a bit useful now. Mass Regia Aeronautica raids anyone?

[addman]

Originally Posted by JG52Uther

So the G50 could become a bit useful now. Mass Regia Aeronautica raids anyone?

Absolutely! Finally we can keep up with the Br.20's when escorting them.

[Jaws2002]

Originally Posted by addman

Absolutely! Finally we can keep up with the Br.20's when escorting them.

interesting times on the way. The big equlizer online is going to be the Blenheim. With the engines fixed there will be a lot of players taking them for a joyride across the chanel. Can't wait.

[VO101_Tom]

Originally Posted by JG52Uther

So the G50 could become a bit useful now. Mass Regia Aeronautica raids anyone?

I'm in!