Friday Update, April 13, 2012

[king1hw]

So your feeling about correct historical speed at sea level can be reproduced or even close? Please show me a video of a SpitfireMKIa doing this and I will go away at peace and fly them the best I can. Of course I like flying the allied planes for personal reasons and will defend the data that has been presented to this crew over the past 12 years being involved with the il2 series.

Why no 12lb spitfire when they were being flown in FRANCE. So the game would show exactly what happened in history rookie pilots shooting down vets in better machines. However you may say that is not the truth and they were so inferior that it took an act of GOD or a big bang to produce what it said in history.

For the Hurricane being at more bases it must have done well in the fight with rooks behind the flight stick. Must have been a better machine with 12lbs of BOOST instead of 9 and yes the game had a 12 lb hurry in it so all they need to do WAS JUST CALL IT A 12lb Hurricane MKIa not dumb it back to 9lbs and make it slower.

Its ok Thor I will still fly the sim just every time a patch comes out it dose not match the data and I will be on here questioning the history. Rooks vs Vets something to be said about the pilots and the machines they flew in.

king

[[URU]AkeR]

Sweeet!!!! GReat news from the patch! And the screenshots of the sequel look better and better every time.

Originally Posted by csThor

Oh, and you are absolutely neutral? If you managed to converse in a normal tone people may take you serious. But right now you merely resemble an angry little kid who hasn't gotten the sweets he wanted.

+1

[Jaws2002]

Originally Posted by king1hw

......some endless whining......

Could you please wait for the patch and whine after you actually tried it please?




May have to take more than one tho.

[CaptainDoggles]

I'm quite pleased with the news on the whole, but I just want to point something out that was disappointing to read.

Unfortunately some deeply-set limitations in the engine code do not allow us to minimize the margin of error at altitudes about 7 km (21,000 ft) where most aircraft begin to perform worse than their real-life counterparts. Fixing this requires more extensive code rework and will therefore only appear with the upcoming sequel.

Not long ago I posted that we could expect 1c not to fix things until after the sequel was out. Looks like I was at least partially correct.

I took a lot of abuse and ridicule from the moderators here and was given some ridiculous number of infraction points because I was "spreading deliberate falsehoods".

Feels good to be right in the face of jerks being wrong.

[Ataros]

Originally Posted by king1hw

What data have you been reading I am sorry to hear that the allied planes are dumb down again to meet the German Blue demand much like il2 1946. This sim is going the way of the dodo and the allied bird in your series have never met the correct speeds at sea level and still to this day even with the mods in 46 they still are tanks.

So at low alt the spit Ia still performs like a joke and you have to only fly above 18000 ft to see a performance increase. This is laughable. Who won the war for gosh sakes. what pilot notes are you reading are they Germans.

I am sad to hear this.

king

There is an entry regarding Spit Ia in the IL2 bugtracker http://www.il2bugtracker.com/issues/84

Please vote up and add reference data if you have some.

BTW there is no entry regarding 109 performance. Anyone has good reference to add if its performance is not correct?

[Talisman]

Originally Posted by Ataros

There is an entry regarding Spit Ia in the IL2 bugtracker http://www.il2bugtracker.com/issues/84

Please vote up and add reference data if you have some.

BTW there is no entry regarding 109 performance. Anyone has good reference to add if its performance is not correct?

I find it a bit strange that we would be expected to have to vote to get the correct performance for the aircraft in the sim. Correct performance and historic specification of aircraft should already be a priority top ten objectives for the developers I would have thought. Still, I will start voting then.

Talisman

[Majo]

Thank you for the update!
Thank you for trying to maintain as the leit motiv for your work the "It's historically accurate" sentence.

Data might or might not be perfect, manipulated or misused. Working this way, the "It's historically accurate" way, in simulation is always the right path.
Of course this can be a little naïve but still all honest work attitudes affected by limitations are.

Thank you for not mixing up "air power" vs "aircraft performance".

Salutes.

[JG52Uther]

Luthier can you say if the bombsights have been fixed?

[BGs_Ricky]

Originally Posted by moilami

Here are some facts by Hans Wind:

The easiest one to shoot down of the enemy fighters is the Hurricane. It is totally helpless against us below 3,000 meters. It is slow and very clumsy and unmanoeuvrable. Whenever you meet a Hurricane, engage it in a turn-fight, where it is totally at our mercy. It is best to shoot this plane in the forward part of the fuselage when it almost immediately bursts into flames.

http://www.virtualpilots.fi/hist/WW2...csLecture.html

Facts yes but Hans Wind was not fighting Hurricanes in a Bf-109E.

[moilami]

Originally Posted by BGs_Ricky

Facts yes but Hans Wind was not fighting Hurricanes in a Bf-109E.

Aye, he probably flew Brewster B239.

He flew that from 1941 to 1943. Though he switched to Bf 109 at 1943 too.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hans_Wind


Edit: The lectures were written 1943.