Friday Update, March 30, 2012

[priller26]

I know the particle effects are an issue.can anyone explain why they are so difficult, or I should say, so difficult in this game? Obviously all games use them, and most seem to have very little problem handling them fine.

[SiThSpAwN]

Originally Posted by priller26

I know the particle effects are an issue.can anyone explain why they are so difficult, or I should say, so difficult in this game? Obviously all games use them, and most seem to have very little problem handling them fine.

I would assume its more in the coding of the graphics engine than the actual graphics themselves, I believe they said when we get the beta patch that the game wouldnt look different (which it really doesnt need to) but it would perform better.

[priller26]

Thanks, all in all, its the particle effects that really slow things down for me, and happy to hear they are being addressed.

[addman]

Originally Posted by priller26

Thanks, all in all, its the particle effects that really slow things down for me, and happy to hear they are being addressed.

Same here, I think it's the same for even the high-end rigs, the code is poorly written/optimized so it doesn't matter how much brute force you throw at it, it will still perform poorly in some regards. Hopefully they'll solve it sooner rather then later.

[priller26]

Originally Posted by addman

Same here, I think it's the same for even the high-end rigs, the code is poorly written/optimized so it doesn't matter how much brute force you throw at it, it will still perform poorly in some regards. Hopefully they'll solve it sooner rather then later.

My PC is pretty high end (4.0 cpu and 3 gig nvidia 580) and the particle effects kick down fps to 12 or so, sometimes less, so I agree completely, no matter what your card/pc, they just dont work at the moment, but they obviously are aware of this, just hope a fix is not too far off it this is the last big issue... . a matter of weeks, and not months dragging into the summer..but..all is possible.

[klem]

Originally Posted by priller26

My PC is pretty high end (4.0 cpu and 3 gig nvidia 580) and the particle effects kick down fps to 12 or so, sometimes less, so I agree completely, no matter what your card/pc, they just dont work at the moment, but they obviously are aware of this, just hope a fix is not too far off it this is the last big issue... . a matter of weeks, and not months dragging into the summer..but..all is possible.

From a non-coder...

would it be possible to have this selectable as in some kind of old fashioned effect that doesn't hammer the fps ('particle effect OFF') and the new super particle effect ('particle effect ON'). Could this be a solution? We didn't have this problem in IL-2 '46.

I don't suffer from the problem (perhaps I've never seen a concentrated effect) but it might let more people into the game.

[Wolf_Rider]

Particles, sounds like it is in the realm of physx... if not, it probably should be?

[III/JG53_Don]

Originally Posted by klem

I don't suffer from the problem (perhaps I've never seen a concentrated effect) but it might let more people into the game.

Don't you have the more or less heavy stutters, when a formation of planes starts and raises dust or even a single plane?
These are particle effects as well, am I right?
Kinda serious situation to have stutters during takeoff, especially if you takeoff directly behind a starting squadmate...

[ElAurens]

Originally Posted by klem

From a non-coder...

We didn't have this problem in IL-2 '46.

In modded versions of '46, where particle effects are used with great abandon it is indeed a problem. I had to turn off the new smoke, fire and cloud effects in HSFX otherwise several of my more active missions became unplayable.

[Robert]

Originally Posted by klem

From a non-coder...

would it be possible to have this selectable as in some kind of old fashioned effect that doesn't hammer the fps ('particle effect OFF') and the new super particle effect ('particle effect ON'). Could this be a solution? We didn't have this problem in IL-2 '46.

I don't suffer from the problem (perhaps I've never seen a concentrated effect) but it might let more people into the game.

I may be wrong, but I thought I remember the particle effect for FB/IL2 being a problem when it was first implimented back in 2004ish. Either the release of the patch or the release of the effect was delayed because of issues. I do remember folks ooooohing and ahhhhing when the video of take off dust trailing behind planes was shown.