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Old 04-24-2008, 05:54 PM
nearmiss nearmiss is offline
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The AI is just so so in this sim.

You want to enjoy this sim... the best way is to join up with others and fly online.

Then all opponents and flight mates are real people. All the things that an AI should do are capably handled by real people.

I remember making a posting at the Zoo couple years back pointing out some of the lack of tactics by the AI.

Example:

In 1943 when the Russians began to gain the advantage over the Germans in Russia they were applying new tactical combat techniques. Pokriskin, hero of the Soviet Union, and an ACE pilot taught to Russian pilots to fly fighters in pairs at different altitude tiers. He would have his P40s take on the German Bombers at low altitude, then when the German fighters came in on the P40s a group/s of Soviet P-39 fighters would drop down from altitude on the Germans. All the while other Soviet fighers were above and descended incrementally into the mix. Using these tactics the Soviets became air dominant within a year.

In the IL2 you can set up the mission with P40s taking on the bombers, and have the fighters stacked in altitude tiers. THen when the AI are aware of the enemy aircraft everyone of them drops into the battle like flys to poop. You cannot simulate the tactics that were needed to defeat the Germans. So the only way for the Russian aircraft to win is make all the Soviet Aces and the Germans Rookies, etc. It doesen't make for much of a mission.

They didn't even like what I said, about IL2 being a Soviet sim and there was no real AI performance that would make the Soviet aircraft competent against the Germans when no tactics could be applied. LOL --- the mods deleted the thread.

If you want to fly Offline and enjoy competent AI performance there is only one air combat sim that will closely fit the requirements. The BOB II WOV with the 2.07 update will fill the bill, but you are stuck flying very few aircraft 1939-40 vintage.

Most of us that have been around for a while know the IL2 is what it is and anything we can milk out of it at this point is pretty well the sum of it.

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Old 04-24-2008, 11:48 PM
IceFire IceFire is offline
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You can solve most of this using good mission design. The waypoints around the GATTACK point are critical as the AI is trying to do what its told. Although it does do some stupid things.

But then I would ask...are humans online so perfect either? If I were to fly out in a group of 8 and strafe targets with bombs and rockets. Usually one or two of those guys will crash in the process. Even when the group is a bunch of experienced pilots...although it does happen less. The AI seems to be about the same just looks more goofy doing it...actually I'm not sure about that
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