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Old 04-02-2012, 07:35 PM
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Really? Based on what? So far we have two sources that both say 16 squadrons. On says on 31 July 16 squadrons were approved and the other that by .

The RAF maintained a very vigorous rotation schedule. You can see that in the OOB.
I would like you to read your source, If you look at it you will find they are one and the same and there isn't one that says 16 squadrons were using 100 octane in September.

If there is I would be glad to see it but I am certain that you don't have one that says, sometime in September 16 squadrons were using the fuel to quote your words.
If you cannot supply such a source, I would like an explanation as to why you are saying that you have such a paper and don't.
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Old 04-02-2012, 08:50 PM
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Glider you have seen the sources. They are already posted in this thread.

I am not interested in wasting my time hunting them down to be re-posted. Read the thread, please.

I will scan the OOB's but on my time not yours.
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Old 04-02-2012, 10:39 PM
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Glider you have seen the sources. They are already posted in this thread.

I am not interested in wasting my time hunting them down to be re-posted. Read the thread, please.

I will scan the OOB's but on my time not yours.
Your right, I have seen the sources and they don't say what you claim. Please note item 8.

So just to sum up the outstanding questions which are outstanding with you

1) Have you any evidence to support the 16 squadron idea
2) If you believe that it was a rotational issue so only 16 squadrons were using 100 octane at any one time, is there anything to support your theory
3) I am not that interested in your OOB as I posted one from the official archives which clearly showed more than 16 squadrons in the front line 10, 11, 12 Group at any one time. I am confident that if your supported your views then you would have posted them in double quick time

So I must repeat you may have your belief but you do not have any facts, none at all.

I believe the following to be the source that you are using, if you have more than that then please let us know because they are not in this thread:-
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I have them for every few weeks over the course of the entire battle. The facts are the RAF maintained a rather vigorous rotation schedule.

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Glider you have seen the sources. They are already posted in this thread.

I am not interested in wasting my time hunting them down to be re-posted. Read the thread, please.

I will scan the OOB's but on my time not yours.

All you have to do is provide evidence that even a single RAF FC Hurricane/Spitfire combat sortie was flown with 87 octane fuel.

Please demonstrate that just one sortie out of the tens of thousands made during the BofB was flown with 87 octane fuel.
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Old 04-02-2012, 04:07 PM
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From all the arguments and counter-arguments posted, it seems clear that the following can be derived :

87 octane may have been used by ( a few/some ) Squadrons as well.
Actually this is the part that hasn't been proved, because there is no evidence of it whatsoever aside from a couple of training flights becoming embroiled on the odd occasion (listed by Glider). The problem is that one or two people have taken this lack of any evidence as reason enough that it was so widespread as not to be worth mentioning, anywhere, ever.


Aside from that I agree, modelling both would be best for very early war scenarios.
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