Cliffs of Dover, a Year Later

Chivas,

You'll have to do better than that.

And dont throw that baby out with the bathwater.

All the arguments about it being a different dev team, leader, set of circumstances are written in 48 point burning gold letters atop the nearest hill.

It wont wash.

Ben

[Chivas]

OK Falstaff, I see this going to take sometime. I will keep repeating it until you get it right.

"Let me make this real simple for you Falstaff. When you look at a healthy baby you don't see something that can't talk, walk, or run. As you get older and wiser Falstaff, you will learn there is a good possibility that the baby will grow up to be able to talk, walk, and run. Of course alot of things can go wrong in the process and it won't work out, but I think you may start to understand. Give it time, let it sink in."

Chivas,

In order to be able to patronise someone, they have to be susceptible. I'm probably a good deal older than you, and a lot more experienced in software dev, having worked in it for a few years some years ago. You're off to a bad start?

So, what are the devs working on next Tuesday, say about lunch-time? Surely your delineated step-by-step explanation of their inner working can yield this info? Now dont tell me the crystal ball is hazing over....

Ben

David Hayward said:

>>Apparently Falstaff can't explain why it's important to determine the CoD financing structure. Does anyone else have a good reason?<<

Apparently I have no wish to, and have never expressed the slightest interest in it, sunflower. But others have and that's good enough for me, God.

Now, justify your posts and presence here. Why? Because I said. (good, innit?)

[David Hayward]

Originally Posted by Falstaff

David Hayward said:

>>Apparently Falstaff can't explain why it's important to determine the CoD financing structure. Does anyone else have a good reason?<<

Apparently I have no wish to, and have never expressed the slightest interest in it, sunflower. But others have and that's good enough for me, God.

It's fine with me, too. I'm not looking for people who can't think of any good reasons, I'm looking for someone who does have a good reason.

[Chivas]

You may be older Falstaff, but I doubt it. If you are you certainly haven't learned much in all your years. Tell you what lets readdress this when you and sim are alittle older, to see if the sim has learned to crawl and you've matured.

[addman]

Originally Posted by Chivas

You may be older Falstaff, but I doubt it. If you are you certainly haven't learned much in all your years. Tell you what lets readdress this when you and sim are alittle older, to see if the sim has learned to crawl and you've matured.

I don't want to get in a tussle with anyone here (it's more fun to stand on the sidelines pointing and laughing) but if it's something that this forum has taught me it's that age has nothing to do with being mature. This is not pointed at anyone in particular, now carry on.....

[philip.ed]

Originally Posted by Chivas

You may be older Falstaff, but I doubt it. If you are you certainly haven't learned much in all your years. Tell you what lets readdress this when you and sim are alittle older, to see if the sim has learned to crawl and you've matured.

Chivas, those in glass houses should not throw bricks. You have the grammar and spelling capability of a 14 year old boy. Common sence really.

And I am being sarcastic. But comments like this are spiteful, no? And serve no purpose to the debate at hand. Addman is right.

Whilst I find you one of the more level-headed posters, Falstaff is correct: you do act as though you have some inside knowledge none of us are aware about. Did you support Tree's posts pre-release? If so I would have to bow down to your current 'knowledge' and assume it's correct; but otherwise history shows that you've got no credible background to substantiate your allegations. I don't think any of us do really: just lucky (fluke-ish on some level; realistic on others) guesses.

CloD isn't a maturing baby. It's a late birth infected with a curable host of illnesses. And you are no doctor; nor are any of us. But at the end of the day, the illnesses are currently unshakeable.

And that may sound harsher than I intend it to be, because I do believe the game will mature into something great: be it through add-ons or community service.

David..no, you're looking for an argument, as always. Or even better, a question to which there may not be a simple answer, or one which will never be in the public domain. Which suits you down to the ground. ideal. Carry on grand-standing and tub-thumping. So what have you won preciesly? Slightly lower self-esteem, when the mist clears?

[David Hayward]

Originally Posted by Falstaff

So what have you won preciesly? Slightly lower self-esteem, when the mist clears?

I haven't won anything yet. If someone answers maybe I'll understand the point of this argument.