The Crystal Ball 2

[drewpee]

It doesn't matter who is right and who is wrong, it an argument that can't be won. What matters is the size the argument has become. It's time for management to step up and put the community at ease.
I brought COD on release date for $105 Australian in good faith. If this mess is cleaned up I will buy BOM at release. If no I'll wait for the bargain bin price of $50 or less. A lose of over 50%.
There are so many bugs right now that a small patch each weak is not a big ask.

[ElAurens]

There is no such thing as a "small" patch. No matter what size it is, it still requires weeks, if not months of testing. Just changing one thing can have many unforeseen effects in other areas, so beta testing by a fairly large number of players, with different rigs and play styles is absolutely necessary.

Or perhaps you would prefer they just toss out "fixes" with no testing as it would give people more to argue and whine about?

[drewpee]

Originally Posted by ElAurens

There is no such thing as a "small" patch. No matter what size it is, it still requires weeks, if not months of testing. Just changing one thing can have many unforeseen effects in other areas, so beta testing by a fairly large number of players, with different rigs and play styles is absolutely necessary.

Or perhaps you would prefer they just toss out "fixes" with no testing as it would give people more to argue and whine about?

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[Wolf_Rider]

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Originally Posted by drewpee

It doesn't matter who is right and who is wrong, it an argument that can't be won. What matters is the size the argument has become. It's time for management to step up and put the community at ease.

the problem is, there is no "putting the community at ease"... whichever whatever comes out,no matter what, gets distorted or flamed. You can't ignore the problem child and you can't slap it either.

There is no such thing as a "small" patch. No matter what size it is, it still requires weeks, if not months of testing. Just changing one thing can have many unforeseen effects in other areas, so beta testing by a fairly large number of players, with different rigs and play styles is absolutely necessary.

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[Havoc04]

Bottom line

I have and so have the rest of you, PAID money for the product. There are bugs, some not so obvious others are in you're face bugs. To me it is unfinished and NOT what i spent my hard earned dollar for

We are the people that KEEP these guys in business, If it were not for us and others buying there product then they would be OUT of business.

Personally i think i HAVE we have the right to updates/explanations and anything else that comes with me/you PAYING for a product and not receiving a GOOD result.

Having said that i uninstalled it ages ago. So does that give the right to complain? TOO RIGHT it does.

As far as there UBER expansion/Standalone game, i don't care. They left us with a white elephant while they pottered of to do something else knowing full well that the CoD was in a shambles.

[drewpee]

How long has it been since the last patch? We were told a patch is coming soon, any day/week and still we after weeks (not soon) we still know nothing new. If there is a problem let us know don't tell us any day now.
I have always been a FAN BOY and tried to be positive. I've played the game every week. The problem is I get told a patch is coming I play a little less because if I'm playing with a porked FM I'm learning bad habits. No problem I'll wait. But now I'm starting to get worried. I get the idea that the sequel is getting worked on when ALL EFFORT should be delivering old promises first.
I mite be wrong but unless I get told something I will start to loose faith.

[Ataros]

Originally Posted by drewpee

If there is a problem let us know don't tell us any day now.

If there is no patch this means there is a problem. Probably many problems that are found and fixed every day. It goes without saying, no point in repeating it every Friday. When there is no problems we get the patch.

[kendo65]

Originally Posted by Ataros

If there is no patch this means there is a problem. Probably many problems that are found and fixed every day. It goes without saying, no point in repeating it every Friday. When there is no problems we get the patch.

Unfortunately it is that strategy that is now causing so many problems. Communication is usually a good idea, and imo becomes essential in a situation like this where the delays build.

Also, I sincerely hope that the patch won't require another 6-12 months. I think if that is the case COD really is dead and buried.

[Fjordmonkey]

Originally Posted by kendo65

I think if that is the case COD really is dead and buried.

There will always be fans that are patient enough to wait for it to mature properly. Hell, I know I'm one of them. So dead and buried? Nah. Having the number of fans it COULD have had? Most likely not.

Then again, the original IL2's fanbase picked up over the years. I'm fairly confident that CLoD and sequels will recover as well.

[Ataros]

Originally Posted by kendo65

Unfortunately it is that strategy that is now causing so many problems. Communication is usually a good idea, and imo becomes essential in a situation like this where the delays build.

Each recent update thread shows that much more people do not like to hear updates like this example (made up by me):

"We are still working on this, that and that but small issues with that and this prevent us from issuing a patch yet. We do hope that these small issues would not cause any major disaster when pieces of code are assembled and tested together. As the tests are not 100% complete unfortunately we can not give you any ETA ATM because **** usually happens in the very last moment as anyone working in the industry knows."

Majority of users criticise these kind of updates. That is why there is no update at all till patch is ready.