The Crystal Ball 2

[Chivas]

Considering some of Luthier's and BlackSix's posts, I'm quite sure that the devs are just as annoyed with the community as some in the community are with them. Its possible it could effect what they post in the forums, but at this point, what we post or the devs post in the forums will have very little effect on the outcome of the new series. It will cause a few people who read the forums to delay their purchase, but the devs have enough support from the IC publishers to continue work for atleast a few more months to get things moving in the right direction. At the end of the day its the final product that counts, if the finished product is good then the new IL-2 series will be successful. This next patch is critical, to the sims survival, it needs a considerable performance boost to allow integration of all the missing resource hungry features.

[Manuc]

this is totally ridiculous. We are paying customers and no poor suppliants at the court of the king.

[Widow17]

i think if they had good news they would be extremely willing to tell. The pressure is high on them and they would love to give us something to cheer us up. They know they have to give results and of course they want to. They want to make everyone happy, because a happy customer makes them happy too. I think they still have some ugly problems they cant solve so far and most probably think its better to keep silent until there are good news.

[David198502]

i just think that this silence is not good at all for the relationship between the devs and the community.

[6S.Manu]

Originally Posted by Widow17

I think they still have some ugly problems they cant solve so far and most probably think its better to keep silent until there are good news.

This is the problem: if you have bad issues then tell us.. bad news are better than no news at all.

[Widow17]

Originally Posted by 6S.Manu

This is the problem: if you have bad issues then tell us.. bad news are better than no news at all.

Thats basically right, no idea, maybe its because of those who dont think like you or its just the shame. I personally tend to do the same myself, it sucks to keep telling bad news, especially when the pressure to bring good news is high.

[David Hayward]

I'm not annoyed at all. I think the meltdown some people in here are having over a game is very entertaining.

[Robert]

Originally Posted by 6S.Manu

This is the problem: if you have bad issues then tell us.. bad news are better than no news at all.

Let's be honest here. You know as well as I do that if the developers are the least bit open, there will be the same contingent of forumites who will ride them like an old horse. Frankly there was a topic posted last week by one of our members that I think put them over the edge. There's no respect from certain people, and it has caused every one to suffer.

I get that we're paying customers. I understand the frustration of not having something in working order. What I don't understand is how some could behave so poorly.... and then whine about it as if they have no bearing on why things are the way they are.

Some have complained about the updates regarding BoM as smoke and mirrors, when in reality it's proof that further development of the series is assured, AND that the product isn't abandoned. The developers aren't stupid. They know the lacks.

1C isn't without culpability, but we as forum members should look at our own behaviour too. If some of the folks here went on and on out side a resturant because of poor food, (like they do here) they'd be arrested for harrassment. Some have likened the release of this game to a $50,000 auto mobile. I invite you to try some of the shennanigans there as you do here.

We're all in the same boat waiting for this product to be what we all hoped it would be, but some folk's behaviour warrants the black out. No one is any more disappointed than the other forumite. Yet there are some who think they are doing good by being pretentious children. But then again, a child never does grasp the ramifications of their childish behaviour.


Regarding BoM? I'll wait to see whether improvements are executed before making a final decision. Making false threats of not purchasing because my feelings may be hurt because of the lack of updates is fool-hearty, IMO.




We're a small community. I've seen the same names from other forums for ten years. Others have changed names but can be recognisesd. 1C is small too. It's the relative size of both that permitts the intimacy and good communication we grew used to. I also think that's one of the reasons it's easy to take some of this personally. (Jusy my opinion.)

[mungee]

Originally Posted by Widow17

i think if they had good news they would be extremely willing to tell. The pressure is high on them and they would love to give us something to cheer us up. They know they have to give results and of course they want to. They want to make everyone happy, because a happy customer makes them happy too. I think they still have some ugly problems they cant solve so far and most probably think its better to keep silent until there are good news.

I second that!

I'm not a computer programmer/games developer but I'm sure that it's often not possible to know how long it's going to take to complete a project/programme change that is bug-free.

I remember being involved in the switcging of our accounting system from one programme to another - it was scary! I would tell the boss that we'd be ready in 2 days time - something would go wrong and set us 4 days back etc etc.

I think that we must remain patient - I'm sure that Luthier & his team are doing their best to get things done.

Just please keep the comments polite chaps!

[Mardescrap]

Originally Posted by Manuc

this is totally ridiculous. We are paying customers and no poor suppliants at the court of the king.

Did you subscribe to updates or did you pay for a game?